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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6657998" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Maybe it's been too long since you played AD&amp;D 2nd edition, but let me rattle off a few tactics and see if they jog your memory:1.) Magic Jar the Tarrasque at 9th level2.) Polymorph a mouse into a Gold Dragon at 7th level3.) Animate Dead unlimited numbers of monstrous corpses at 9th level (5th for clerics)4.) Create an army of almost-permanently dominated slaves with Dominate at 9th level.5.) Emplace multiple Fire Traps in the same location to kill anyone who you can trick into going there at 5th level.6.) All-day invisibility at 3rd level.7.) Teleport Without Error at interplanetary/interstellar distances at 14th level.None of these capabilities exist for 5E wizards at any level. The 5E wizard has more flexibility but far less raw power. A 20th level 5E wizard has a scope somewhat similar to an 7th to 9th level AD&amp;D wizard, but more depth within that scope. I.e. he can do fewer and less powerful kinds of things, more times per day.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6657998, member: 6787650"] Maybe it's been too long since you played AD&D 2nd edition, but let me rattle off a few tactics and see if they jog your memory: 1.) Magic Jar the Tarrasque at 9th level 2.) Polymorph a mouse into a Gold Dragon at 7th level 3.) Animate Dead unlimited numbers of monstrous corpses at 9th level (5th for clerics) 4.) Create an army of almost-permanently dominated slaves with Dominate at 9th level. 5.) Emplace multiple Fire Traps in the same location to kill anyone who you can trick into going there at 5th level. 6.) All-day invisibility at 3rd level. 7.) Teleport Without Error at interplanetary/interstellar distances at 14th level. None of these capabilities exist for 5E wizards at any level. The 5E wizard has more flexibility but far less raw power. A 20th level 5E wizard has a scope somewhat similar to an 7th to 9th level AD&D wizard, but more depth within that scope. I.e. he can do fewer and less powerful kinds of things, more times per day. [/QUOTE]

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