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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6658364" data-attributes="member: 957">That marketplace that leads you to say: &quot;And yet here I am, I play 5e, unlike all you people who made a choice to be so rigid that you wouldn't even play with us. Here we are. What exactly more is it you require of us? eh? We took all the crap and we're still being sports and now what? We have to shut up and pretend we like it so you can feel better?&quot;&nbsp; Yeah, cuz this is a fair reflection of what happened.....&nbsp; Are you going to claim that 3E was hurting in 2002 when they started working of 3.5?&nbsp; 2002 has been called, by many, the &quot;second golden age&quot;.&nbsp; 3.5 was a cash in on huge success.&nbsp; It backfired in many ways, but it does not reflect the market success of the 3E game.&nbsp; And funny that you count 3.5 but ignore essentials, which is generally agreed to have been an emergency recovery effort.You also ignore the STILL booming success of PF, which amusingly goes back and forth from &quot;being 3E&quot; when 4E fans want to say 4E got a raw deal to &quot;not being 3E&quot; when 4E fans want to fudge the edition cycle numbers.Some D&amp;D fans have substantial Business Management experience.&nbsp; But whatever, we are in a place where you are expressing significant frustration.&nbsp; So I'll just say &quot;the market result where you didn't get what you would have liked&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 6658364, member: 957"] That marketplace that leads you to say: "And yet here I am, I play 5e, unlike all you people who made a choice to be so rigid that you wouldn't even play with us. Here we are. What exactly more is it you require of us? eh? We took all the crap and we're still being sports and now what? We have to shut up and pretend we like it so you can feel better?" Yeah, cuz this is a fair reflection of what happened..... Are you going to claim that 3E was hurting in 2002 when they started working of 3.5? 2002 has been called, by many, the "second golden age". 3.5 was a cash in on huge success. It backfired in many ways, but it does not reflect the market success of the 3E game. And funny that you count 3.5 but ignore essentials, which is generally agreed to have been an emergency recovery effort. You also ignore the STILL booming success of PF, which amusingly goes back and forth from "being 3E" when 4E fans want to say 4E got a raw deal to "not being 3E" when 4E fans want to fudge the edition cycle numbers. Some D&D fans have substantial Business Management experience. But whatever, we are in a place where you are expressing significant frustration. So I'll just say "the market result where you didn't get what you would have liked" [/QUOTE]

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