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<blockquote data-quote="MoutonRustique" data-source="post: 6658515" data-attributes="member: 22362">Yeah, 4E wasn't great at &quot;showing&quot; (whilst pretty excellent at telling) - so the feeling of many actions was very easy to interpret in a variety of ways.Which can be good - if you like to make the things your own and don't care about explicit links - or very bad if you prefer the reverse...In this sense, clerics did heal with magic spells and unlock the surge was the clerics action through and through! AND clerics only allowed others to heal themselves was a very easy (not pejorative here, talking about actual ease) interpretation to make - at the same time.Sort of like everything about everything - nice for those that like it, bad for those that don't.I find it fairly hard to argue that having a healer in the party greatly increases its power. To the point where many feel they are &quot;mandatory&quot;.You could always have an &quot;all X&quot; party in any edition - but the game often had to face some significant modifications (either in tone, rhythm, loot accessibility/assignment, etc.)I've not tried it, it is true - but my gut tells me that going through HotDQ with a full non-caster party will require some significant changes... (But I've not tried it, so IDK for certain.)2) the idea isn't in relying exclusively on the spell - it's just that the feeling that having the spells makes everything a lot easier is pretty easy to get to. All the points you make also hold true for non-magical resolutions (but I get your point that using only one source, no matter how powerful, is a dangerous proposition). However, you can't argue that it isn't a very powerful tool of investigation.But I'm kind of just arguing to be arguing it seems - so I'll this, but feel free to ignore.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoutonRustique, post: 6658515, member: 22362"] Yeah, 4E wasn't great at "showing" (whilst pretty excellent at [I]telling[/I]) - so the [I]feeling[/I] of many actions was very easy to interpret in a variety of ways. Which can be good - if you like to make the things your own and don't care about explicit links - or very [I]bad[/I] if you prefer the reverse... In this sense, clerics [I]did[/I] heal with magic spells and unlock the surge was the clerics action through and through! [B]AND[/B] clerics only allowed others to heal themselves was a very easy (not pejorative here, talking about actual ease) interpretation to make - at the same time. Sort of like everything about everything - nice for those that like it, bad for those that don't. I find it fairly hard to argue that having a healer in the party [I]greatly[/I] increases its power. To the point where many feel they are "mandatory". You [I]could[/I] always have an "all X" party in any edition - but the game often had to face some significant modifications (either in tone, rhythm, loot accessibility/assignment, etc.) I've not tried it, it is true - but my gut tells me that going through HotDQ with a full non-caster party will require some significant changes... (But I've not tried it, so IDK for certain.) 2) the idea isn't in relying [I]exclusively[/I] on the spell - it's just that the feeling that having the spells makes everything [I]a lot[/I] easier is pretty easy to get to. All the points you make also hold true for non-magical resolutions (but I get your point that using only [I]one[/I] source, no matter how powerful, is a dangerous proposition). However, you can't argue that it isn't a [I]very[/I] powerful tool of investigation. [size=1]But I'm kind of just arguing to be arguing it seems - so I'll this, but feel free to ignore.[/size] [/QUOTE]

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