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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6658523" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Sure, its easy to offer bets you know you'd never have to pay up on. Nobody is going to 'win' a bet like that, there's no proving such things. Your opinion is </p><p>inherently just as likely to be wrong and subjective as anyone else's. So, whatever. I continue to maintain that most people don't have any really strong convictions one way or the other. They play a game based on what other people they are around will play and they enjoy themselves. There's no big 'silent majority' of people that even waste their time thinking about game systems all that critically. </p><p></p><p></p><p>There are a million things wrong with that statement. First of all its not just a magic system. Just changing things for nothing else than the sake of change is a perfectly good reason. Nor do I think that its stupid or foolish when you do that go draw heavily on something that was widely accepted in the past. Suppose they just decided "well, we're not going to use the power system for fighters this time around, then immediately you'd find there's MUCH less reason to use it for wizards and/or clerics and/or druids. Its not really rocket science. And just as most people were OK with playing 4e with powers, they're OK with playing 5e with spells, feats, and class features. They just don't care that much, they're really after the overall experience of playing different fantasy characters in roughly the 'D&D genre'. Most of them don't really even get into all the gory details THAT much.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Whatever, we're all lazy, that's right. lol. And really, honestly? I don't understand why I should even care about sales figures. Frankly its not all that interesting to me. I don't really think what run-of-the-mill "I play on Saturday and don't crack a book all week" type players care about is actually what drives sales anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes yes, you know all. Sheesh.</p><p></p><p>Well, obviously you're vastly more insightful than the rest of us... </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, well, I'll happily run 100 more 4e games, or my own stuff that is built on it and you can do whatever you want. Thanks for being such a sport, all of you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6658523, member: 82106"] Sure, its easy to offer bets you know you'd never have to pay up on. Nobody is going to 'win' a bet like that, there's no proving such things. Your opinion is inherently just as likely to be wrong and subjective as anyone else's. So, whatever. I continue to maintain that most people don't have any really strong convictions one way or the other. They play a game based on what other people they are around will play and they enjoy themselves. There's no big 'silent majority' of people that even waste their time thinking about game systems all that critically. There are a million things wrong with that statement. First of all its not just a magic system. Just changing things for nothing else than the sake of change is a perfectly good reason. Nor do I think that its stupid or foolish when you do that go draw heavily on something that was widely accepted in the past. Suppose they just decided "well, we're not going to use the power system for fighters this time around, then immediately you'd find there's MUCH less reason to use it for wizards and/or clerics and/or druids. Its not really rocket science. And just as most people were OK with playing 4e with powers, they're OK with playing 5e with spells, feats, and class features. They just don't care that much, they're really after the overall experience of playing different fantasy characters in roughly the 'D&D genre'. Most of them don't really even get into all the gory details THAT much. Whatever, we're all lazy, that's right. lol. And really, honestly? I don't understand why I should even care about sales figures. Frankly its not all that interesting to me. I don't really think what run-of-the-mill "I play on Saturday and don't crack a book all week" type players care about is actually what drives sales anyway. Yes yes, you know all. Sheesh. Well, obviously you're vastly more insightful than the rest of us... Yeah, well, I'll happily run 100 more 4e games, or my own stuff that is built on it and you can do whatever you want. Thanks for being such a sport, all of you. [/QUOTE]
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