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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6659134" data-attributes="member: 957">You are abusing the fact that I went along with the example provided.I also compared the exact same blizzard covered mountain to peasants.  You are leaving that out.I'm boggled that you can't wrap your brain around the difference between a hard mountain is hard for everyone and the DC shifts to match that and the exact same hard mountain is deadly to peasants and easy to super heroes.I've had 3E campaigns in which the players knew on Day 1, "if you go over there you will almost certainly die" and then more than a year later in real time the party was adventuring there.  The DCs don't care what level the party is.  I get the point that you can do this is 4E.  But I dislike the idea that the world would EVER care what level the PCs are, so this whole conversation is about a wart 4E inserted into the mechanics.</blockquote>