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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6659265" data-attributes="member: 6775031">Some magic does let you bypass a skill check entirely, but it tends to be edge cases that aren't crowding anyone else's territory. Invisibility, for example, will absolutely 100% allow you to bypass visual inspection... but that's only ever a minority of cases where Stealth would be important, and it doesn't let you bypass anything within range of anyone who might possibly hear you. Likewise, I'm saying that the Charm spell will let you automatically get someone to provide minor aid that comes with no personal risk or cost to the target. This guard thinks that you're his or her friendly acquaintance, and so might be willing to give you directions out of the castle if you say that you're lost (where a hostile guard might immediately attack, or have you apprehended). Getting into the treasure vault is still going to take a check, if it's possible at all, but the DM is more than justified in saying that no check is allowed because the guard just wouldn't let you do that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 6659265, member: 6775031"] Some magic does let you bypass a skill check entirely, but it tends to be edge cases that aren't crowding anyone else's territory. Invisibility, for example, will absolutely 100% allow you to bypass visual inspection... but that's only ever a minority of cases where Stealth would be important, and it doesn't let you bypass anything within range of anyone who might possibly hear you. Likewise, I'm saying that the Charm spell will let you automatically get someone to provide minor aid that comes with no personal risk or cost to the target. This guard thinks that you're his or her friendly acquaintance, and so might be willing to give you directions out of the castle if you say that you're lost (where a hostile guard might immediately attack, or have you apprehended). Getting into the treasure vault is still going to take a check, if it's possible at all, but the DM is more than justified in saying that no check is allowed because the guard just wouldn't let you do that. [/QUOTE]

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