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<blockquote data-quote="Jessica" data-source="post: 6660070" data-attributes="member: 6796107">I think Iron Kingdoms RPG could also be included in that list. There is a hard upper limit on what kind of magic casters can perform and the strongest magic tends to be battlefield control. While high level non-gifted(gifted being the magic archetype for PCs) do amazing things that a gifted character can't even begin to replicate. A gifted PC will never wreck things as hard as a mighty pc, or do the crazy combat shenanigans of a skilled PC, or have the synergistic battlefield coordination of the intelligent PC. Gifted PCs can do a ton(and our last game had 3/5 of the PCs as gifted because it was a very broad archetype that covered my gun mage, my friend's menite warcaster, and my other friend's arcane mechanik), but they still won't have the wide range of abilities within their special field as the non-gifted PCs.Personally, I think non-4e D&amp;D gives way too much power to spellcasters and this is coming from a spellcaster player.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jessica, post: 6660070, member: 6796107"] I think Iron Kingdoms RPG could also be included in that list. There is a hard upper limit on what kind of magic casters can perform and the strongest magic tends to be battlefield control. While high level non-gifted(gifted being the magic archetype for PCs) do amazing things that a gifted character can't even begin to replicate. A gifted PC will never wreck things as hard as a mighty pc, or do the crazy combat shenanigans of a skilled PC, or have the synergistic battlefield coordination of the intelligent PC. Gifted PCs can do a ton(and our last game had 3/5 of the PCs as gifted because it was a very broad archetype that covered my gun mage, my friend's menite warcaster, and my other friend's arcane mechanik), but they still won't have the wide range of abilities within their special field as the non-gifted PCs. Personally, I think non-4e D&D gives way too much power to spellcasters and this is coming from a spellcaster player. [/QUOTE]

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