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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6661210" data-attributes="member: 957">Understood.&nbsp; But you seem to not grasp that when you frame it as a function of character level, the implication that it will continue to be a function of character level is present.&nbsp; Thus when character level changes the result will follow the function and &quot;shift&quot;.&nbsp; I accept that you say you DON'T actually do this.&nbsp;&nbsp; I suppose you just track what level the party was the first time they go anywhere so you know what the DC was when it first came into existence.When did I ever suggest otherwise?&nbsp; I have said OVER and OVER that I greatly respect the merits of 4E for the niche it services.&nbsp; I've repeated that there are legitimate reasons a lot of people don't like 4E and this is one of them.&nbsp; I'm talking from the perspective of a portion of that other group.&nbsp; You need to quit inserting yourself as the center of every comment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 6661210, member: 957"] Understood. But you seem to not grasp that when you frame it as a function of character level, the implication that it will continue to be a function of character level is present. Thus when character level changes the result will follow the function and "shift". I accept that you say you DON'T actually do this. I suppose you just track what level the party was the first time they go anywhere so you know what the DC was when it first came into existence. When did I ever suggest otherwise? I have said OVER and OVER that I greatly respect the merits of 4E for the niche it services. I've repeated that there are legitimate reasons a lot of people don't like 4E and this is one of them. I'm talking from the perspective of a portion of that other group. You need to quit inserting yourself as the center of every comment. [/QUOTE]

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