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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ohillion" data-source="post: 6662463" data-attributes="member: 6798304">Short answer: 5e doesn't suck at all!  A good DM and a group of players can make any rule set work for their party.  Even aside from houseruling, you can play directly to a rule set and determine for yourselves what will work for your group and what won't work.  For our group, we just love having the social time on a Thursday night and a chance to let our hair down and have some fun.  If you feel you need to lawyer up every time there's a game session, you just might be taking the game a tad too seriously.  After all, it IS still just a game - one of the finest and longest played games of all time mind you.  But it is still a game.</blockquote>