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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6663294" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>On the lack of play example, I have no real hypothesis. </p><p></p><p>On the objection to analysis, I do have a hypothesis. There are people who enjoy books and films, for example, but disagree vociferously with even the <em>idea</em> of doing serious analysis or criticism of them. I think a lot of the resistance to analysing GMing comes from a similar position. The thought is that to analyse is already to change the practice, and make it something it isn't and ought not to be (eg a deliberate or considered thing rather than a spontaneous thing).</p><p></p><p>A related sort of objection to analysis is that the analyst is trying to set him-/herself up as intellectually superior to those who engage in the activity without analysing.</p><p></p><p>I don't share you first theory - I don't think that GMs have particularly strong personalities compared to other people I know (both personally and professionally) for whom analysis is part and parcel of engaging with any sort of activity.</p><p></p><p>I think your second theory is closer to the truth, but perhaps confuses causation and correlation: the objection to 4e is, in many cases, grounded in the same sort of approach to RPGing as makes someone hostile to analysis. Eg 4e doesn't present the play experience as something that emerges organically and almost ethereally from just reading the books and rolling up PCs, but rather presents the game a something rather deliberate, and - in that sense - artificial.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6663294, member: 42582"] On the lack of play example, I have no real hypothesis. On the objection to analysis, I do have a hypothesis. There are people who enjoy books and films, for example, but disagree vociferously with even the [I]idea[/I] of doing serious analysis or criticism of them. I think a lot of the resistance to analysing GMing comes from a similar position. The thought is that to analyse is already to change the practice, and make it something it isn't and ought not to be (eg a deliberate or considered thing rather than a spontaneous thing). A related sort of objection to analysis is that the analyst is trying to set him-/herself up as intellectually superior to those who engage in the activity without analysing. I don't share you first theory - I don't think that GMs have particularly strong personalities compared to other people I know (both personally and professionally) for whom analysis is part and parcel of engaging with any sort of activity. I think your second theory is closer to the truth, but perhaps confuses causation and correlation: the objection to 4e is, in many cases, grounded in the same sort of approach to RPGing as makes someone hostile to analysis. Eg 4e doesn't present the play experience as something that emerges organically and almost ethereally from just reading the books and rolling up PCs, but rather presents the game a something rather deliberate, and - in that sense - artificial. [/QUOTE]
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