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<blockquote data-quote="tyrlaan" data-source="post: 6663393" data-attributes="member: 20998">Can I ask you to please clarify where you stand on this? As per the above 3 quotes, I'm having a hard time lining it all up.I've had optimizers and non-optimizers in my games at the same time before. To be honest, it's never been a problem to the point that I've felt the need to take action over it. With that in mind, I sort of feel this is an extreme scenario and falls a bit outside the scope of normal, but here's what I would do regardless.If Player 1 is min-maxing to the point of breaking my ability to provide fair encounters for the rest of the group or something similarly disruptive, I'd ask Player 1 to tune his character down. I've done this in a game before, truth be told. Note however that the decision to do this is irrelevant to Player 2's concerns.If the above is not the case, yet Player 1 or Player 2 are complaining to me about the other, I would have a conversation with the two of them and make it clear that they need to work it out. If their respective playstyles aren't impacting how I run the game, then it's a conflict between the two of them. As adults, I expect them to sort it out. The only reason I would step in to even say that is if one or both of the players came to me with complaints about the other one. In other (brutal) words, I may be responsible to bring the fun as the GM, but I am not a babysitter or crutch to dodge social confrontation. Grown ups should be able to figure something like that out.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tyrlaan, post: 6663393, member: 20998"] Can I ask you to please clarify where you stand on this? As per the above 3 quotes, I'm having a hard time lining it all up. I've had optimizers and non-optimizers in my games at the same time before. To be honest, it's never been a problem to the point that I've felt the need to take action over it. With that in mind, I sort of feel this is an extreme scenario and falls a bit outside the scope of normal, but here's what I would do regardless. If Player 1 is min-maxing to the point of breaking my ability to provide fair encounters for the rest of the group or something similarly disruptive, I'd ask Player 1 to tune his character down. I've done this in a game before, truth be told. Note however that the decision to do this is irrelevant to Player 2's concerns. If the above is not the case, yet Player 1 or Player 2 are complaining to me about the other, I would have a conversation with the two of them and make it clear that they need to work it out. If their respective playstyles aren't impacting how I run the game, then it's a conflict between the two of them. As adults, I expect them to sort it out. The only reason I would step in to even say that is if one or both of the players came to me with complaints about the other one. In other (brutal) words, I may be responsible to bring the fun as the GM, but I am not a babysitter or crutch to dodge social confrontation. Grown ups should be able to figure something like that out. [/QUOTE]

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