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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TBeholder" data-source="post: 6955904" data-attributes="member: 41606">It's better to let it walk than to hear unfocused moans. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I see people talking about "why does 5E suck?" in many threads either way - here it would be just all together and under a proper title.Now that more people had time to try it, they have something to chime in.Conversely, the developers had more than enough time to patch away the worst. So when it sucks, it sucks - that cannot be "oops, random turbulence" at this point. There are still people naive enough to edition-war D&D?I thought it was more and more and more obvious that the only questions are how and why a particular version sucks, not whether it does. Well, yes, d20 also became a major source of bad styles, but in my summary this side had to be skipped as organizational and accidental issue, rather than one directly related to game mechanics.</blockquote>