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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3408304" data-attributes="member: 18280">How are they out of context?&nbsp; Does the quote somehow not mean what you meant when you wrote it?&nbsp; The fact that you later changed your mind doesn't make the quote out of context.I did read the rest of the thread.&nbsp; It's actually one of my subscribed threads, because I do plan on using the WLD again some day.&nbsp; I remember well when we've discussed the flaws of the product -- you suggesting that I hadn't read past sections A &amp; B, me suggesting that there were other flaws to the product.&nbsp; Nice work on the suggested changes, btw.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Anyway, imagine if you would that you personally are a pretty dedicated and talented DM.&nbsp; Your work on the WLD shows that to be true, IMHO.&nbsp; Now, imagine that the guy who designed the Derro section was an average-to-good DM.&nbsp; Probably wasn't Mr. Crap-on-a-Stick, but not up to your caliber.&nbsp; Probably a bit better than average.Now examine that quote again.&nbsp; &quot;[T]his is the first time I've had PC's of these levels&quot; probably doesn't make you an expert on how high-level play typically goes in this version of the game.&nbsp; &quot;and I'm pretty shocked how powerful the group is&quot; has nothing to do with the writing of the section -- except, of course, that the designer didn't really understand what &quot;high level&quot; in 3.X means, either.And, the editor might have been under a time crunch, but I bet he didn't realize just how much of a cakewalk that region would be with the RAW when the book was first released.&nbsp; Didn't he express surprise with how easy one of the dragon encounters is in another region, even now?So, you spent &quot;10 minutes&quot; fixing the problems for your group.&nbsp; And, I would certainly argue that you are an above-average DM.How long do you think the &quot;average DM&quot; is going to have to spend?EDIT:&nbsp; It also occurs to me that, if you really took only ten minutes to fix the area, then the design team did a really poor job, because the &quot;it was a mess/time constraints&quot; excuse simply doesn't wash.&nbsp; Or else it took more than 10 minutes.&nbsp; Or else, you're just an amazingly good DM.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />EDIT AGAIN:&nbsp; BTW, the purpose of some of those other divination spells is to obtain the name of the right person to scry on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3408304, member: 18280"] How are they out of context? Does the quote somehow [i]not[/i] mean what you meant when you wrote it? The fact that you later changed your mind doesn't make the quote out of context. I did read the rest of the thread. It's actually one of my subscribed threads, because I do plan on using the WLD again some day. I remember well when we've discussed the flaws of the product -- you suggesting that I hadn't read past sections A & B, me suggesting that there were other flaws to the product. Nice work on the suggested changes, btw. :) Anyway, imagine if you would that you personally are a pretty dedicated and talented DM. Your work on the WLD shows that to be true, IMHO. Now, imagine that the guy who designed the Derro section was an average-to-good DM. Probably wasn't Mr. Crap-on-a-Stick, but not up to your caliber. Probably a bit better than average. Now examine that quote again. "[T]his is the first time I've had PC's of these levels" probably doesn't make you an expert on how high-level play typically goes in this version of the game. "and I'm pretty shocked how powerful the group is" has nothing to do with the writing of the section -- except, of course, that the designer didn't really understand what "high level" in 3.X means, either. And, the editor might have been under a time crunch, but I bet he didn't realize just how much of a cakewalk that region would be with the RAW when the book was first released. Didn't he express surprise with how easy one of the dragon encounters is in another region, even now? So, you spent "10 minutes" fixing the problems for your group. And, I would certainly argue that you are an above-average DM. How long do you think the "average DM" is going to have to spend? EDIT: It also occurs to me that, if you really took only ten minutes to fix the area, then the design team did a really poor job, because the "it was a mess/time constraints" excuse simply doesn't wash. Or else it took more than 10 minutes. Or else, you're just an amazingly good DM. :D EDIT AGAIN: BTW, the purpose of some of those other divination spells is to [i]obtain[/i] the name of the right person to scry on. [/QUOTE]

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