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<blockquote data-quote="Zhure" data-source="post: 944267" data-attributes="member: 308">Sleep is a killer spell until level 4th level. It targets Will, it's the earliest and easiest &quot;save or die&quot; spell until 4th. You're saying anyone with a poor will save is hopeless?&nbsp;The half-elf save boost are a racial bonus and they apply to all Enchantment spells, an entire school. Iron Will is an unnamed bonus. They stack.&nbsp;Stealth and anti-stealth characters both like low-light. It's really helpful to see the rogues coming. As a half-elf, you don't get the +2 Dex but also don't take a -2 Con and since your favored class is &quot;any,&quot; if you're a rogue/non-wizard, you won't take XP penalties.&nbsp;A 5% increase is a 5% increase. It's almost as good as Alertness (an underrated feat). For those classes who do get Spot/Listen/Search (Rogues, Commoners, Experts and Rangers), it saves three skill points to compete with the stealthers and for the other classes it gives an edge.&nbsp;&nbsp;Never understimate the benefits of not taking a -2 Con. More hit points and a better Fortitude save are both excellent Wizardly boons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zhure, post: 944267, member: 308"] [B] [/b] Sleep is a killer spell until level 4th level. It targets Will, it's the earliest and easiest "save or die" spell until 4th. You're saying anyone with a poor will save is hopeless? [b] [/b] The half-elf save boost are a [i]racial[/i] bonus and they apply to all Enchantment spells, an entire school. Iron Will is an [i]unnamed[/i] bonus. They stack. [b] [/b] Stealth and anti-stealth characters both like low-light. It's really helpful to see the rogues coming. As a half-elf, you don't get the +2 Dex but also don't take a -2 Con and since your favored class is "any," if you're a rogue/non-wizard, you won't take XP penalties. [b] [/b] A 5% increase is a 5% increase. It's almost as good as Alertness (an underrated feat). For those classes who do get Spot/Listen/Search (Rogues, Commoners, Experts and Rangers), it saves three skill points to compete with the stealthers and for the other classes it gives an edge. [b] [/b] [b] [/b] Never understimate the benefits of not taking a -2 Con. More hit points and a better Fortitude save are both excellent Wizardly boons. [/QUOTE]

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