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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 5812513" data-attributes="member: 20323">So is the expectation that in the next edition a player should be able to call upon any of the six abilities in any given situation? That seems like quite a stretch to me.Sheesh if you really want examples of ways Constitution could be used to get inside a guarded manor house, here ya go:1. Ditch your gear an hire on as a porter lugging goods into the manor courtyard or a sedan chair carrier for one of the manor nobles.2. Engage an off duty guard in a drinking contest.3. Hang on to the bottom of a carriage leaving town bound for the manor.4. If the noble is an enemy, you could turn yourself in and just endure torture/beating, as part of a larger plan.5. As a group somehow make the environs of the manor inhospitable (eg. control weather or start a fire), and while the manor is being evacuated the party sends in their toughest member.6. Show the manor lord's rebellious son/daughter a &quot;good time&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />7. Have a wizard cast a polymorph spell into a housecat or a horse which requires a constitution based system shock check.8. Aerial drop from a high tower/tree or while flying overhead - use CON to brace for fall (hey if you can use Dex to climb insead of Str why not?)9. Engage the manor's guardian in a &quot;game of wits&quot; a la Princess Bride....and...10. Hold your breath thru the stream feeding the manor's well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 5812513, member: 20323"] So is the expectation that in the next edition a player should be able to call upon any of the six abilities in any given situation? That seems like quite a stretch to me. Sheesh if you really want examples of ways Constitution could be used to get inside a guarded manor house, here ya go: 1. Ditch your gear an hire on as a porter lugging goods into the manor courtyard or a sedan chair carrier for one of the manor nobles. 2. Engage an off duty guard in a drinking contest. 3. Hang on to the bottom of a carriage leaving town bound for the manor. 4. If the noble is an enemy, you could turn yourself in and just endure torture/beating, as part of a larger plan. 5. As a group somehow make the environs of the manor inhospitable (eg. control weather or start a fire), and while the manor is being evacuated the party sends in their toughest member. 6. Show the manor lord's rebellious son/daughter a "good time". ;) 7. Have a wizard cast a polymorph spell into a housecat or a horse which requires a constitution based system shock check. 8. Aerial drop from a high tower/tree or while flying overhead - use CON to brace for fall (hey if you can use Dex to climb insead of Str why not?) 9. Engage the manor's guardian in a "game of wits" a la Princess Bride. ...and... 10. Hold your breath thru the stream feeding the manor's well. [/QUOTE]

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