WhatGravitas
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Okay: Forced movement is control, yes? So forced movement abilities represents a part of the different abilities to control, among other things, like AoE damage, status effects, and battlefield shaping. By comparing these abilities, we get to see how the classes stack up in these particular aspects.Try again.
From the comparison: The cleric has higher quality ones, but can use them less often - this is very similar to the situation in the AoE effect department, which leads to this, since the wizard has better status effects and battlefield shaping:
Which is probably the main point - sure, the wizard will always remain a better controller, simply due to his access to controllish powers at-will, unlike the cleric.I've come to the conclusion that Wizards are still better controllers then Clerics. Frequency of control in conjunction with better control powers overall but not in every single instance.
I also agree with the people who think that Clerics have too much control ability in comparison to the Wizard's low amount of "leader-esque" abilities.
But, as with the quality of firestorm compared to the wizard's spells, it's at least a reasonable position to say that cleric and wizards have some overlap - and the crux is: How much overlap can you have without stepping on each other's toes, especially if the toe stepping is one-directional.
Of course, the leader role, unlike the other roles, is a bit lacking all on its own - hence it must have other abilities. The warlord does that by being a "defender-light", whereas the cleric is a "controller-light". However, looking at these points of comparison, it's possible that the cleric is more "controllerish" than the warlord is "defenderish".
Cheers, LT.