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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9261474" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Anyway, now that my view of the thread isn’t so cluttered…[USER=6790260]@EzekielRaiden[/USER] Can you restate briefly where you’re at with the subclass? I am interested in your thoughts here. For context, I loved the 4e assassin so much that I spent hundreds of hours on the wotc boards figuring out the most elegant solutions to its shortcomings without changing its nature. Executioner bypassed a lot of issues and ran great with the feat or whatever to use shrouds instead of the normal executioner damage boost. My assassin class can force a dex save on an enemy as a reaction to rolling initiative, to swap places in initiative with that creature, and can place a shroud as part of rolling initiative. Subclasses will have different round one ambush type stuff, but the base class sets up very fast strikes as well as the “move kill move” feel that assassins should have. What would you do if you have to rewrite the phb assassin rogue?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9261474, member: 6704184"] Anyway, now that my view of the thread isn’t so cluttered… [USER=6790260]@EzekielRaiden[/USER] Can you restate briefly where you’re at with the subclass? I am interested in your thoughts here. For context, I loved the 4e assassin so much that I spent hundreds of hours on the wotc boards figuring out the most elegant solutions to its shortcomings without changing its nature. Executioner bypassed a lot of issues and ran great with the feat or whatever to use shrouds instead of the normal executioner damage boost. My assassin class can force a dex save on an enemy as a reaction to rolling initiative, to swap places in initiative with that creature, and can place a shroud as part of rolling initiative. Subclasses will have different round one ambush type stuff, but the base class sets up very fast strikes as well as the “move kill move” feel that assassins should have. What would you do if you have to rewrite the phb assassin rogue? [/QUOTE]

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