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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8453104" data-attributes="member: 22779">I have to admit, I am absolutely the wrong person to answer this question.  I do not value tradition for itself at all.  But, it is interesting to see why others do.I think that so many times the conversations we try to have get tripped up because the basic assumptions that people are making are so different.  For example, you see discussions about changes to the game being framed in terms of "Well, this is what we have done in the game in the past", and for the framer, that tradition has intrinsic value in and of itself.  All the lore discussions generally fall into this sort of category.  Which is where run afoul because I just simply do not care about tradition.  Like at all.  If 6e comes out with a character sheet using ten percentile stats, I'll just shrug and move on.  Ok.  That's what D&D is now.  I've gone from a D&D that fit into about 100 pages for rules - Basic/Expert is where I started, not even BECMI - to 5e now and every edition in between.  The game then and the game now are really not the same games to me.  All the addition of lore in the 2e days, the complete revision of mechanics in 3e and later, to me, claims of tradition might as well be made in Swahili for all that I'll understand.  But, it does behoove me to try to see things from the other point of view, where traditions are something to be upheld and a foundational connection to the game.I wonder if there is any correlation between the feelings of tradition in the game and how long a given group of players has played together.  See, for me, I've changed the make up of my groups a LOT.  Granted I now have two players in my group that I've played with since 3e, but, prior to that, I had a new group every year, pretty much.  Never minding new campaign, I sat down with a totally different group of people every year (more or less) pretty much from the tail end of 1e, all the way through 2e, into 3e and not really until after the release of 3.5 have I played with the same people for more than a year.Might explain why I have zero attachment to tradition in the game.</blockquote>

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