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Why is/was melee training so bad?
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<blockquote data-quote="Neurotrash" data-source="post: 5274966" data-attributes="member: 92516"><p>As was already said, it really only became broken with the release of the new MBA-based classes in Essentials.</p><p> </p><p>Using the Slayer as an example, for the price of one feat (melee training) you could make a Slayer with a 20 Dex. This gives you a melee basic attack that does [W] + 10 damage every time you hit (and all your attacks are MBAs), and with hide armor you're walking around with a 18 AC at first level, in addition to the Slayer's defender-level hp. </p><p> </p><p>With the new fix to the feat, that falls to a [W] + 7, which is a little closer to other first level Strikers in damage output. Without the feat, with 18 Str 18 Dex you can get [W] + 8 damage, and a 17 AC in Hide (the same as if you were just wearing the Scale you're already proficient in). </p><p> </p><p>Taking Melee training isn't a bad choice, but now it's not a "you're stupid if your Slayer doesn't take it at first level" choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neurotrash, post: 5274966, member: 92516"] As was already said, it really only became broken with the release of the new MBA-based classes in Essentials. Using the Slayer as an example, for the price of one feat (melee training) you could make a Slayer with a 20 Dex. This gives you a melee basic attack that does [W] + 10 damage every time you hit (and all your attacks are MBAs), and with hide armor you're walking around with a 18 AC at first level, in addition to the Slayer's defender-level hp. With the new fix to the feat, that falls to a [W] + 7, which is a little closer to other first level Strikers in damage output. Without the feat, with 18 Str 18 Dex you can get [W] + 8 damage, and a 17 AC in Hide (the same as if you were just wearing the Scale you're already proficient in). Taking Melee training isn't a bad choice, but now it's not a "you're stupid if your Slayer doesn't take it at first level" choice. [/QUOTE]
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