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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 5286396" data-attributes="member: 82504">I will repeat nerfing Gandalf when choosing his fighting style in the first place is already very non-optimal is just insult added to injury.Strength isnt what it is cracked up to be.I found it hilariously stupid that D&D pretended Strength was the only thing to affect hitting something with a sword (this was 30 years ago or so when I first seen it).The basic element of martial arts and fencing (from big swords and armor to no weapon and fists) is moving your body in a balanced and agile fashion . Discipline contributes massively to trained ability with specific moves. You could supplant dexterity almost entirely for discipline.speed(strength) +  dex (agility) + wisdom (perception)  +intelligence (timing + reflexes) + charisma (creativity and deception and spirit) In fact if you try to force openings using more strength? than you have agility or wisdom... it can very much be used against you. And not just using some fancy eastern technique... you leave yourself open.Five pounds pressure with a blunt weapon will kill you in half a dozen locations and 10 pounds in a dozen more.. strength is incredibly over rated .. exceptional strength .. exceptionally so.  Perception can be a greater determiner of damage than force.Different arts emphasize different styles.. and in a magical universe something like martial training for characters of some of these classes =really just means using the same techniques learned to aid and flavor there fighting to a quick and instinctive degree.Fighting is not ugh me bash with big muscles .. that wisdom use by the phb fighter makes extraordinary sense it could go further.To me as a human your best weapon is on your shoulders even in a fist fight.. the rewind to moron fighters pretends to make sense it doesnt unless you know very little about fighting.Here is some fun I was thinking about relates to using the attributes to reflect styles of martial art.Generic Karate - based on Strength, generally this is speed and force.Generic Judo - based on Dexterity, agility and flexibility Kung Fu - based on Wisdom its all about perception and discipline and analysing other beings. Bruce Lees Martial Art - based on Charisma its primarily fluid creativity, deception and raw spirited bursts.Jackie Chans Martial Art* - based on Constitution, he wears out his enemies with extremely persistent rapid moves without a lot of force behind them actually, and even his attacks are mostly him defending in ways that bring out the futility of his enemies attacks, the environment sometimes does finishing shots for him or multiple enemies will hit each other. Sherlock Holmes Martial Art* - based on Intelligence its all about quick thinking and predicting the enemies moves and understanding the patterns of interplay.*fantastical I know.  Wisdom as in perception ought to always be atleast a potential basis/boost for opportunity attacks.Charisma as in spirited bursts ought to always be a potential basis/boost for charge attacks.Technically any style exploits multiple attributes or even all attributes.  And even the effectiveness of the big bad strength ... can be limited by its users other attributes.</blockquote>

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