Fast Learner
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It's such a cliche/trope, it's gotten very old. If you're killing the really bad guy, you must take thats second shot through the head. Shows that don't really fall down in favor for me.
Why No Lost?
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My feeling is that Ben the kid is dead, the problem is how does the death effect Ben of the future, who is on the island and out of time. I can see how this will 'fix' the island - now for unification.
LightPhoenix
First Post
There's an important distinction to be made between what we as the audience knows and what a character might now. We've gotten the "you can't change the future" spiel a couple of times now - first with Desmond/Charlie, then Michael/Richard, and then with Faraday a couple of times. However, Sayid hasn't gotten it at all, to my knowledge. So while we know that Ben can't die, because he's alive in the future, Sayid doesn't know this.
In fact, it's been established that it wouldn't have mattered how many times Sayid shot Young Ben - he will survive. Alternatively, fate's course correction would come into play: the gun would jam, or Sayid would miss, or any number of other incidents to cause Ben to live.
So it's completely logical within Sayid's character that he thinks Ben is dead now - he doesn't know that Ben can't die in the past.
In fact, it's been established that it wouldn't have mattered how many times Sayid shot Young Ben - he will survive. Alternatively, fate's course correction would come into play: the gun would jam, or Sayid would miss, or any number of other incidents to cause Ben to live.
So it's completely logical within Sayid's character that he thinks Ben is dead now - he doesn't know that Ben can't die in the past.
Unless Ben the child did die in the past and is not real in the future.
Another question to be answered; Ethan, how does he get into the hands of the Others...
Another question to be answered; Ethan, how does he get into the hands of the Others...
Fast Learner
First Post
Not from the perspective of a professional killer, though. One body shot is far from certain death.
Remus Lupin
Adventurer
Little Ben's not dead. No way, no how. The show's gone out of its way so far to avoid as much of the "time travel paradox" as possible up to now. Killing Ben before the Dharma mass killing would destroy all of that.
However, the more I see of Ben's father, the more sympathetic I am, not to what Ben becomes, but to the boy who could have been something else -- "Sweet Kid."
However, the more I see of Ben's father, the more sympathetic I am, not to what Ben becomes, but to the boy who could have been something else -- "Sweet Kid."
Krug
Newshound
Ok now someone needs to travel back in time and kill Sayid...
Well good twist. Definitely a better season with more focused stories. I wonder if that nuclear bomb that's still around will play a
Well good twist. Definitely a better season with more focused stories. I wonder if that nuclear bomb that's still around will play a
part in the destruction of the island, which I see as the probable ending of the series.
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Arnwyn
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Why was Sayid incredibly stupid during all the conversations with Sawyer?
"Hey Sayid - got a plan, we're freeing you and now you can join the rest of us."
"Nah... I'll just sit here and... do nothing. Or get executed. Whatever."
Wha...?
(Cheered at the shot in the end, though there's absolutely no way he's dead.)
"Hey Sayid - got a plan, we're freeing you and now you can join the rest of us."
"Nah... I'll just sit here and... do nothing. Or get executed. Whatever."
Wha...?
(Cheered at the shot in the end, though there's absolutely no way he's dead.)
dravot
First Post
Sayid took a risk, but the risk paid off. I don't think he was suicidal.
Great episode last night. Now we know how Ben became one of the Others.
