Why No Lost?

[Demmero]

Man, I really hate time travel.

That being said, here are some of the things I'm looking to find answers to:

1) How are the time jumps affecting Cindy (the 815 flight attendant turned Other), the kids, and the other Tailies taken off the beach? They've been on the island the same amount of time as the Losties, so my initial guess is that they, too, should be bouncing through time...unless the Others have some special protection against jumps (the temple?). And where are Rose and Bernard?

2) When are the Losties going to stop giving Ben information? I wanted to reach through the screen and slap Desmond for answering Ben's question with: "You're here to see Faraday's mother, too?"

When I saw Ben's slightly startled reaction, I thought: "OMG! Daniel and Ben never actually met on the island when Widmore's scientists/mercs invaded! They know each other!" Then I thought: "Nah...Ben had detailed files on Charlotte and the other members of the team, thanks to his spy Michael on the boat. Ben shouldn't be surprised." But THEN I remembered Desmond going to Oxford and them having no records of a Daniel Faraday going there and thought: "Hmm...maybe he's using an alias, and Daniel Faraday isn't his real name!"

3) After a while, the time jumps started to annoy me. It almost seemed like the writers were trying to play "Guess what year we're in now!" with the audience, building towards a payoff moment in each time period ("Whoa! The hatch is back! Oops, now it's gone! The Nigerian plane just flew overhead! Rousseau's scientific expedition's arrived!", etc.). Now, though, I'm wondering if there's a deeper plan here. Most of the time flashes are to important times/events on the island. Does something need to be "fixed" to help stabilize things, maybe?

 

[Demmero]

Of course, most time jumps involve no changing in relative location... except the one jump that leads to Jin rejoining Sawyer and co. Ie Jin was near the beach/temple when Rousseau was about to start shooting him, but then flash, he's with the rest. Since every other jump has moved all the time jumpers to the same time, when Jin was in 88, so were the rest, so they would have been nearby.

It's possible that the Temple is quite close to the Orchid Station--remember Ben using a mirror to signal someone on a mountaintop as he, Locke, and Hurley got close to the Orchid at the end of last season? And we know that the remaining Others had taken refuge in the Temple by then.

So Jin and the Sawyer party might've been in close proximity when that last time jump occured.

 

[Mark]

Have there been many maps made of the Lost island and, if so, which one is the best?

 

[Mark]

Cool machine.

 

[Felon]

Man, I would've loved to have seen Ben get beaten up. Love that line we got out of him.

"What's going to happen to the other people on this plane?"

"Who cares?"

Tell me I'm not the only one who thought Locke's letter was going to read:

"Don't get on the plane with Ben!"

or something like that.

 

[Elodan]

Man, I would've loved to have seen Ben get beaten up. Love that line we got out of him.

"What's going to happen to the other people on this plane?"

"Who cares?"

Tell me I'm not the only one who thought Locke's letter was going to read:

"Don't get on the plane with Ben!"

or something like that.

I thought it would say something about preventing Ben from getting back to the island.

Anyone else think that the gentlemen who gave Jack his condolences at the airport is going to be on the island?

I'm guessing Ben turned in Sayid (fairly certain he was in custody - matching the original flight) and manipulated Kate and Hurley to get them on the plane. He such an evil manipulative SOB. Loved Hurley buying all those seats on the flight. Is the guitar supposed to be Charlie's?

 

[Mark]

Man, I would've loved to have seen Ben get beaten up.

We will.

 

[RigaMortus2]

I have a few questions...

When Ben "moved" the island, did the island move in physical location or did it "move through time" or both? At the end of the last season, I assumed that it moved location within in the same time frame. Of course, since they introduced time travel in this season, I thought "Well the island is technically still there, but is constantly moving through time." The problem with this is, the Losties are the only ones moving through time, their surroundings are not moving with them, they are changing because they are moving through time, so I can't see how the island is moving through time.

I guess this last episode did clear it up. Eloise Hawking did mention that the island moves physically and they can predict where it might be at certain points in time (in the future).

Second, who is that butcher lady that was holding Locke's corpse for Ben? Ben said something like, "Keep him safe or everything we are about to do won't matter."

Lastly... Didn't Daniel Faraday state that they aren't able to manipulate or change things that already happened? This is why he was able to give a message to Desmond. Which I don't quite understand. Why was Daniel Faraday able to deliver Desmond a message, but no one else was able to (according to Daniel that is)?

And as a follow up to that, why didn't future Danielle Rossueo recognize Jin, since they obviously met in the past?

 

[Demmero]

Man, I would've loved to have seen Ben get beaten up. Love that line we got out of him.

"What's going to happen to the other people on this plane?"

"Who cares?"

And how about his response when Jack asks him how he can read right before they re-enact the crash?

"My mother taught me."

Um, Ben--your mother died giving birth to you. Even his snappy one-liners are loaded with lies.

Tell me I'm not the only one who thought Locke's letter was going to read:

"Don't get on the plane with Ben!"

or something like that.

I'm pretty sure Mrs. Hawking called the letter Locke's "suicide note." My first thought upon learning its contents ("I wish you had believed me") was that it really wasn't much of a suicide note and not the least bit clear. If a cop had found the note near Locke's body, I'd think Jack would've gotten a police visit for some follow-up questions.

However...the writing on the enveloped looked neater and more feminine than what I'd expect to see in John Locke's handwriting. And, of course, the letter was unopened. So it seems likely that either someone got it from Locke before his death was reported/discovered or...it's a fake. I'm leaning towards the second. I'm guessing that Ben (or possibly Mrs. Hawkings) wrote it as a way of manipulating Jack (Mr. Fix-It) back to the island to remedy the mistake he'd made of leaving.

 

[Demmero]

I have a few questions...

Second, who is that butcher lady that was holding Locke's corpse for Ben? Ben said something like, "Keep him safe or everything we are about to do won't matter."

I don't believe she's been detailed much beyond being one of Ben's allies off-island.

Lastly... Didn't Daniel Faraday state that they aren't able to manipulate or change things that already happened? This is why he was able to give a message to Desmond. Which I don't quite understand. Why was Daniel Faraday able to deliver Desmond a message, but no one else was able to (according to Daniel that is)?

Well, Faraday's not afraid to play loose with the truth, so take what he says with a grain of salt. Assuming that what he said IS true, however, he also said that Desmond is a special individual, in that the rules of time travel don't seem to always apply to him. (And Desmond is Faraday's constant, for whatever that's worth.) And technically, Faraday wasn't trying to manipulate an event in the past: he was trying to use a person in the past to manipulate a present/future event (getting the time jumps to stop).

And as a follow up to that, why didn't future Danielle Rossueo recognize Jin, since they obviously met in the past?

Maybe because both Rousseas were "past Rousseaus," and by the rules you can't change the past?

Danielle's place in the "normal" (standard?) timeline is as follows: 1) crashes on the island in 1988; 2) meets Jin and the Losties in 2004; 3) Is killed in early 2005; 4) A bit later in 2005, Ben moves the island and the time jumps start occurring.

Since the time travelling didn't start until after she'd met Jin in 2004, she wouldn't know Jin because she hadn't met him until then (and you can't change the past, allegedly). God, I hope that makes an ounce of sense...and this is precisely the reason I hate time travel so much!