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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8839347" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Okay. I see what you're saying. What I am saying is that the core rules are just the foundation. To go with the house analogy, all the stones that make that up the rest of the house above the foundation are the game play. The campaign that is built by the shared imagination of the DM and players that uses the foundation.</p><p></p><p>I'm not seeing that the game needs to be wholly incompatible(3e vs. 4e vs. 5e) to alter the foundation of the game. Just look at the 1st level feat for PCs. In 5e the foundation stone is that there are no feats in the game unless the DM engages that optional rule. In 5.5e that foundation stone has been altered to make feats not only the default state, but to give all PCs a free one at 1st level. </p><p></p><p>That's a significant change that will alter how the rest of the house above it is played.</p><p></p><p>I know very little about 4e, but I've seen people here say that there really weren't any foundational changes with essentials. </p><p></p><p>The bolded is already false. All sheets have to be changed to reflect 1st level feats. Most, perhaps all of them have to be further altered to reflect the new racial changes. Then, and I'm assuming here based on what we've seen in the first two packets, most or all sheets will have to be altered yet further to reflect class and/or subclass changes. And altered yet again to reflect the background ability score bonuses which very likely do not match the racial bonuses you originally received. And yet more to reflect the new languages you get due to background.</p><p></p><p>And all those changes are just from the first two packets. I expect more to come down the line.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8839347, member: 23751"] Okay. I see what you're saying. What I am saying is that the core rules are just the foundation. To go with the house analogy, all the stones that make that up the rest of the house above the foundation are the game play. The campaign that is built by the shared imagination of the DM and players that uses the foundation. I'm not seeing that the game needs to be wholly incompatible(3e vs. 4e vs. 5e) to alter the foundation of the game. Just look at the 1st level feat for PCs. In 5e the foundation stone is that there are no feats in the game unless the DM engages that optional rule. In 5.5e that foundation stone has been altered to make feats not only the default state, but to give all PCs a free one at 1st level. That's a significant change that will alter how the rest of the house above it is played. I know very little about 4e, but I've seen people here say that there really weren't any foundational changes with essentials. The bolded is already false. All sheets have to be changed to reflect 1st level feats. Most, perhaps all of them have to be further altered to reflect the new racial changes. Then, and I'm assuming here based on what we've seen in the first two packets, most or all sheets will have to be altered yet further to reflect class and/or subclass changes. And altered yet again to reflect the background ability score bonuses which very likely do not match the racial bonuses you originally received. And yet more to reflect the new languages you get due to background. And all those changes are just from the first two packets. I expect more to come down the line. [/QUOTE]
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