why orc pc?

[Klaus]

Not all Drizzt-clones are as powerful as Drizzt himself, or wield Incingdeath or >hee-hee< Twinkle (seriously, "Twinkle"?).

A Thrall-clone would be an orc cleric or druid, honorable to a fault (samurai-like honor), with a greathammer and riding a Dire Wolf.

But like I said, we don't see any of those things regularly (even if Eberron orcs have a druidic tradition that is reminiscent of the shamanistic Warcraft III orcs).

 

[ZombieButch]

Because there are a lot more games available for the orc PC than for the orc Mac?

...Sorry.

 

[rossik]

Because there are a lot more games available for the orc PC than for the orc Mac?

...Sorry.

wacka wacka wacka!

ehhe, actualy, i like the joke

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

A Thrall-clone would be an orc cleric or druid, honorable to a fault (samurai-like honor), with a greathammer and riding a Dire Wolf.

He's better be a druid. An orc cleric (-Wis!) would have a pretty lame Dire Wolf companion, as it can't gain power like a druid's companion. Of course, orcs stiill get -Wis rather than the +Wis they get in World of Warcraft.

But like I said, we don't see any of those things regularly (even if Eberron orcs have a druidic tradition that is reminiscent of the shamanistic Warcraft III orcs).

Thrall was never a DnD character, and he's also not that different from the other orcs, other than being raised by humans.

 

[Satori]

This is why people hate Drow PCs.

-The Drow are one of those "Taboo" races...like Mind Flayers.

They are buried hundreds of miles below the earth, indoctrinated to be as evil as possible, kept under the perpetual thumb of an extremely evil Demon Queen (now with God status), and given stats that make them nearly unplayable.

Hence, they make perfect evil bad guys.

Then RA Salvatore comes in and creates the equivalent of an 'Exalted Lawful Good Mind Flayer Vow of Poverty Monk' (yes, I know this has already been done. Nothing is sacred anymore).

He took a purposefully (in my opinion) unplayable race, ignored DnD stats, and made him sound really REALLY cool...

...in the "I'm an angsty teenager with a really cool appearance and all sorts of poor me tragedy...but I'm invincible, so high school bullies leave me alone."

In fact, he did such a good job that Drizzt is the poster boy for angsty, EMO, cry baby, tragically noble teenagers that happen to play DnD.

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Now, the problem is that said "Drizzt Fanboys" can't seem to leave the archetype alone and come up with something original.

Redeemed Orc/Devil/YuanTi/Demon? Just as much evil, less statistical/geographical headache!

Oh no...it HAS to be a redeemed Dark Elf.

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In other words, imagine an author who created a book based on a "Mineral Warrior Half-Demon Half-Dragon Vampiric Swan Princess"...the concept is so far out that it works in a novel...

...but not so much in a game with rules.

 

[Kmart Kommando]

because orcs make good hammers.

not everyone wants to be a wrench or a crowbar, they just want to break stuff.
orcs have, what, +4 STR?

 

[Eltharon]

Then again, in defense of drow, I can see how they are "cool". Y'know, jet black skin, glowing red eyes, leather armor, etc. They pretty much look cool (to most people) doing almost anything, except maybe appearing in books by RA Salvatore.
If they have angst, though, kill them. Painfully.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

Mind flayers are taboo as PCs?

 

[wildstarsreach]

A drow has ECL 2, an orc has ECL 0. That, and an orc isn't terribly different in any way from a half orc, other then being stronger and with less wisdom. Most people will roleplay them the same way, big, dumb, not nice (but not evil either) guys with a gigantic weapon.
Drow, on the other hand, all have to have leather, and long backstories, and either a) Be utterly evil or b) Be a renegade good drow, fleeing from his people with his two scimitars and his panther...

Not true. I've played many a drow in first and second edition. I've played everything but that. It's great idea but I've read all the novels and doubt that I could add or improve on the drizzit character type. I love the Artimis Entriery character more. I'd be more interested in playing this type since he was one of the few that could challange Drizzit. Of course the idea of Artimis venturing into the underdark would be intriging.

I currently play an evil Drow in a War of the Burning Sky campaign. Even if he does the right thing there is always an evil purpose behind whatever he does.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

seriously, "Twinkle"?

Killing using tools that have silly names is great. Those guys with a "souldrinker" swords or foecrusher hammers are just trying too hard to look mean and they look silly. It's like - pulling a completely random and fabricated example out of the air, honest! - wearing black lenses and calling yourself DJ Lethal.

Now, if you call your +10 mercurial greatsword of unholy power "sunshine" - that's real evil. Dress up all in black, but wear a bright yellow smiley button over your heart.