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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7157333" data-attributes="member: 6787650">The interesting thing about 5E is that 20th level power levels are anything but god-like. A 5E 20th level wizard is kind of sort of approximately on par with a 9th-11th level AD&D wizard in terms of the things he can accomplish.The fact that 5E campaigns still peter out before hitting 20th is one of the things that makes me suspect it isn't about power level at all, per se--it's about DMs who haven't prepared for what a level 20 campaign would or should look like. What does D&D become when players cease to pursue XP? I'm not sure, but I think it starts looking more like a high-points GURPS game. Less emphasis on attrition and "encounters per day" and all that nonsense; more emphasis on important NPCs and what they are doing, and what the players are doing about it.</blockquote>