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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Liquidsabre" data-source="post: 1493075" data-attributes="member: 15635">Lol, this thread is silly...Wizard- d4 HD (low)- One good save (Will)- Poor BAB progression - 2 Skill Points/level- High Intelligence for more skill points- 17 Class skills (10 of them Knowledge skills)- High Int adds significantly to important Class Skills such as Knowledge (arcana) and Spellcraft.- Familiar (bonus Alertness Feat plus another Feat Equivalent Familiar bonus)- Scribe Scroll for free- Spell Mastery is available as an exclusive Wizard feat (a wizard has no need of spellbook for these spells)- 5 Simple Weapons. No shield, no armor.- base max 4 spells/level/day- School Specialization (extra spell per level per day for a max 5 spells/level /day), 1-2 prohibited Schools.- Higher Level Spells sooner- More Known Spells (theoretically unlimited)- Spellbook is a GP-sink (I tend to think of them as magic items that may be improved regularly), costs gold & time to add new spells. May be lost.- Other Spellbooks may be found and copied.- BONUS feats at 5th, 10th, 15th, and 20th- May leave Open Spell Slots that may be filled at need- May cast Quickened spells (only wizards can cast 2 spells per round)- May cast metamagiked spells as a standard action- Item creation is cheaper for Wizards as spells may be cast sooner (at lower levels).- With greater selection of spells and more schools available (Improved Counterspell), able to Counterspell more effectively. Compare this to the Core Sorcerer:Sorcerer- d4 HD (low)- One good save (Will)- Poor BAB progression - 2 Skill Points/level- 6 class skills (1 Knowledge skill)- Familiar (bonus Alertness Feat plus Feat Equivalent Familiar bonus)- Simple Weapon Proficiency. No shield, no armor.- Cast spells Spontaneously- Limited Known Spells- base max 6 spells/level/day- Gains higher level spells later.- Effetive counterspelling more difficult due to lack of variety of spells.- May cast metamagic spells spontaneously as a full round action- May not cast Quickened spells.- Item creation more expensive, have to buy scrolls to meet all spell requirements.Let me know what points I may have missed though folks.As for my opinion, I'll take a Wizard over a Sorcerer any day power-wise, though it takes alot more work as a player to realize the full benefits, I don't mind. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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