Wil Wheaton plays and reviews 4th.

[Fifth Element]

Opposite of fanboy = hater right?

Actually no. There are more possibilities then fanboy and hater. There are many reasonable people in the middle that neither deny a game has any flaws, or deny the game has any merits.

 

[Fifth Element]

The word you wanted to use in this post was "Awesome". *insert disappointed head shake smiley*

Hey, I've gotta keep it fresh. Yes. is the new Awesome! Feel free to use both, or either.

So it's about being a "true fan" of D&D again? Hey, you're right, we didn't have this topic in a while. Let's keep it that way.

No true Scotsman would enjoy 4E!

 

[Jack99]

No, you're probably taking it farther than intended. It came off snarkier on the second read. (Slightly.)

No worries, I thought you were pretty funny, albight at my expense, which is cool with me.

It was all about the signature comment.

"I haven't played 4th edition, so don't assume I am a fanboy."

Opposite of fanboy = hater right?

Less than three days will make the other statement also be the opposite as he will have then played 4th....

Fair enough , although I do not think the world is limited to fanboys and haters.

 

[Fifth Element]

It was all about the signature comment.

No, it wasn't all about the sig. There is nothing in the sig about the quality (or lack thereof) of 4E. That was all you.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Actually no. There are more possibilities then fanboy and hater. There are many reasonable people in the middle that neither deny a game has any flaws, or deny the game has any merits.

Well, I think an opposite only makes sense if you have a certain "spectrum". This spectrum can be binary, but doesn't have to be. The things in between are not opposites to the extremes of the spectrum.

The opposite to a fanboy is a hater. The opposite to a car is... what? A plane? A boat? A bike? A newspaper? Is the opposite of an apple an orange?

 

[Darkwolf71]

Hmm, well I'll have to reserve my judgement until I can get home and read this. (I'm not entirely comfortable clicking on any Suicidegirls link while at work. )

I do find it curious though, that he hadn't played the game even though he has 'had the full rules' since the week before release. Yeah, ok. He may have had fun with it, but it's not looking like Willie was chomping at the bit to dive in.


And I can only assume that he has somehow missed the more rabid of the 4e fans attacking others, because from this bit:

I'm not going to attack people who can't stand 4E the same way I've seen some anti-4E people attack others for liking it, because that just reminds me of watching two guys with ponytails argue about which Linux distribution is better while they ignore the stripper grinding on the rail right next to them.

It would seem that any hostility is pretty much one sided.

Anyway, I'll try to reme,ber to read the article when I get home.

 

[Plane Sailing]

I really enjoyed his writing style and enthusiasm. Nice to hear his 'voice' come over so clearly in the blog.

Cheers

 

[Monkey Boy]

Based on what, exactly? Some nebulous "feeling" you got from reading his articles?

Seems a pretty feeble basis for calling someone a liar in a public forum. (Especially since, if you followed his blog, you'd know that he is a regular gamer.)

I edited my original post as it was ill considered. But since you bring it up I'll try and explain my thoughts on where I get my impression.

I agree with you that Wil is a gamer. I just don't see him talking about all the D&D he played except when he was a teenager. He admits to swapping his maths heavy 1e books and suggests an aversion to maths heavy games. For the last 20 odd years D&D has been maths heavy. I guess that leaves him playing WOD or GURPS. Nothing wrong with that.

I read through his blog and don't see much to do with playing D&D. There was the Gygax died post but not much else. Care to point me towards a particular post?

His Wil save articles came across as puff pieces at best. They demonstrated little knowledge of the game in it's current state.

In my now edited post I didn't call him a liar. I do not question his Geek cred. I questioned his credibility on the subject of D&D from what I percieve to be his lack of actually playing the game. I think there is a stark comparison between his 4e review and Massawyrms.

Thats where I am coming from. Perhaps I should start a new thread 'Lets read Wil Save from the beginning'?

 

[fba827]

I was reading it, not so much to see what his opinion was (because, honestly, I don't worry so much about other people's opinion of editions except my own and the opinion of those I game with), but because I was curious to see what Mr Wheaton's personal style (of writing) was like -- was he drab, playbful, perverse, humorous, etc. I mean, all I know him from is Wesley Crusher ST:TNG and, well, I never liked that _character_

I will say though, I was glad with how he closed regarding (my paraphrase) "it's not about the edition but about your DM/Friends/memories"

I do wonder:
1) What class he got to play?
2) What types of classes he generally likes to play (this most recent game aside)?

 

[darjr]

I do wonder:
1) What class he got to play?
2) What types of classes he generally likes to play (this most recent game aside)?

Gotta save something for the podcast.