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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8950066" data-attributes="member: 5889">So the new druid does have the enlarge/reduce spell on them. How this works with wildshape is open to two interpretations:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">I cast reduce on myself to become small. I transform into a small animal. Since wildshape doesn't let me go smaller than small until high levels, and the reduce has already &quot;reduced&quot; me, I remain small.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">I cast reduce on myself to become small. I transform into a small animal. The reduce magic then kicks in, making me tiny. As wildshape doesn't have any requirements that I can't make my animal form smaller once I've wildshaped, this is allowed.</li>
</ol>So which open do you think is appropriate? For me, I go with Option 2, and here's why.If I had cast shield of faith on myself, I wouldn't suddenly go &quot;oh the +2 AC doesn't apply when I wildshape, because the form has a specific AC&quot;. I would get my new wildshape AC, and then apply +2, because the spell is still active and functional. If I had cast barkskin on myself, same idea. The wildshape doesn't &quot;turn off&quot; spells that were precast on me, if they are still active, then their benefits continue to apply.To rule that reduce would not shrink the small animal you have turned into, is to say that NO magic that is on you before wildshape continues to function after you wildshape. And if that was the case, I would assume that would be specified in wildshape itself (just as its note about items is specified).So this seems like the way for druid's to get their tiny animals back. It takes a little magic and concentration, but it can be done.How do you interpret it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8950066, member: 5889"] So the new druid does have the enlarge/reduce spell on them. How this works with wildshape is open to two interpretations: [LIST=1] [*]I cast reduce on myself to become small. I transform into a small animal. Since wildshape doesn't let me go smaller than small until high levels, and the reduce has already "reduced" me, I remain small. [*]I cast reduce on myself to become small. I transform into a small animal. The reduce magic then kicks in, making me tiny. As wildshape doesn't have any requirements that I can't make my animal form smaller once I've wildshaped, this is allowed. [/LIST] So which open do you think is appropriate? For me, I go with Option 2, and here's why. If I had cast shield of faith on myself, I wouldn't suddenly go "oh the +2 AC doesn't apply when I wildshape, because the form has a specific AC". I would get my new wildshape AC, and then apply +2, because the spell is still active and functional. If I had cast barkskin on myself, same idea. The wildshape doesn't "turn off" spells that were precast on me, if they are still active, then their benefits continue to apply. To rule that reduce would not shrink the small animal you have turned into, is to say that NO magic that is on you before wildshape continues to function after you wildshape. And if that was the case, I would assume that would be specified in wildshape itself (just as its note about items is specified). So this seems like the way for druid's to get their tiny animals back. It takes a little magic and concentration, but it can be done. How do you interpret it? [/QUOTE]

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