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<blockquote data-quote="ShadowDenizen" data-source="post: 4231010" data-attributes="member: 16485">Will 4E suceed?I'm sure it will.Will it suceed as much as they woudl like it to?The outcome on that seems more doubtful, in my eyes.And I think there's a number of reasons for that.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/1.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":1:" title="One&nbsp; &nbsp; :1:" data-shortname=":1:" /> One of the reasons 3E was such a resounding sucess was because there was near-universal opinion that a revision and revamping was needed.&nbsp; &nbsp; With 4E? That disticntion seems less clear.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":2:" title="Two&nbsp; &nbsp; :2:" data-shortname=":2:" /> WotC seems to generate nothing but bad publicity of late, at least to my eyes.&nbsp; (Now, I give huge kudos to the WotC who post here and seem genuinely enthused about their products; the Rouse seems like a great choice as a &quot;frontman&quot; for the line.)&nbsp; But they can't escape the fact that the DI is (seemingly) in a shambles; not a good sign, given that they touted the DI as a cornersstone of the &quot;4E Experience&quot;.E-Dungeon and E-Dragon have failed to live up their potential thus far; Gleemax (UGH! DO I detest that name!) remains a cluttered, near-unnavigable debacle, and there's still no definitive due date or pricing for the DDI subscriptions.And the latest Weis/Hickman/WotC blowout? Whatever the truth (and I'm sure it's somewhere in the middle of the two sides), it's definitely struck a blow to WotC.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/3.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":3:" title="Three&nbsp; &nbsp; :3:" data-shortname=":3:" /> The continuing use of the OGL.&nbsp; With Paizo/Pathfinder taking off, that's got to eat into Wizards' customer base.&nbsp; Granted, it may be just a drop in the bucket overall, but I'm assuming that those who stick with Patjhfinder/3.5 are not upgarding to 4E, and a lost sale is a lost sale.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ShadowDenizen, post: 4231010, member: 16485"] Will 4E suceed? I'm sure it will. Will it suceed as much as they woudl like it to? The outcome on that seems more doubtful, in my eyes. And I think there's a number of reasons for that. :1: One of the reasons 3E was such a resounding sucess was because there was near-universal opinion that a revision and revamping was [i]needed[/i]. With 4E? That disticntion seems less clear. :2: WotC seems to generate nothing but bad publicity of late, at least to my eyes. (Now, I give huge kudos to the WotC who post here and seem genuinely enthused about their products; the Rouse seems like a great choice as a "frontman" for the line.) But they can't escape the fact that the DI is (seemingly) in a shambles; not a good sign, given that they touted the DI as a cornersstone of the "4E Experience". E-Dungeon and E-Dragon have failed to live up their potential thus far; Gleemax (UGH! DO I detest that name!) remains a cluttered, near-unnavigable debacle, and there's still no definitive due date or pricing for the DDI subscriptions. And the latest Weis/Hickman/WotC blowout? Whatever the truth (and I'm sure it's somewhere in the middle of the two sides), it's definitely struck a blow to WotC. :3: The continuing use of the OGL. With Paizo/Pathfinder taking off, that's got to eat into Wizards' customer base. Granted, it may be just a drop in the bucket overall, but I'm assuming that those who stick with Patjhfinder/3.5 are not upgarding to 4E, and a lost sale is a lost sale. [/QUOTE]

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