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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 4231300" data-attributes="member: 3400">The danger here, if we can use any examples, is making changes to too much of the game's intangibles - particularly its identity and the identity of D&D players. That's something Coca-Cola learned when they came out with New Coke, a version that did better in taste tests but messed with people's identity as Coke (not Pepsi) drinkers. I don't think there's been anything equivalent to the cola wars between tabletop and online mmorpgs, but whatever there is, any movement of 4e toward the mmorpg (and I think there's some detectable shift) runs the risk of losing tabletop players on identity issues alone.On whether 4e will be a success:I think 4e will successfully win over more players than will stick with 3.x, but it will not be an overwhelming majority in the short term. I would expect no more than 65%. I expect a higher proportion will buy at least the 4e PH even if they don't adopt the system, thus being a bigger sales success in the short term than an actually implemented game system.I think 4e will have no significant success at winning over mmorpg players in the long run. Some, of course, will give it a whirl because the hobbies are reasonably similar. But the long slide of more gamers heading to the mmorpg model will continue.I also think 4e will have no significant success at bringing in old 1e/2e players.</blockquote>