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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4233505" data-attributes="member: 19675">So what?I'm hard pressed to think of a single piece of fiction in which magic was involved- comic, novel, movie, or RW legend- in which you didn't use magic or at least arcane knowledge to combat magic, at least at the highest level.Are there critters out there with vulnerabilities to mundane objects and materials?  Certainly- but you have to have the knowledge to identify the creature, know its vulnerabilities, and be able to get past whatever defenses it may have erected to prevent such weapons being used on it.  Typically, those added layers of defense are...(wait for it)...magical.Sure, in modern "Urban Fantasy," you may be able to shoot the spellcaster with your Desert Eagle, but odds are good that even he has some kind of charm against being damaged by most mundane weapons or some way of healing himself or jumping bodies, etc.  Even with modern tech, when magic enters the picture, you probably still need magic to fight it.The problem isn't the game, the system or preconceptions of the designers, its magic itself.</blockquote>