Will we ever see AD&D Third Edition

[Lord Zardoz]

That happened. About a decade ago.

Have you been hiding under a rock or something? This board wouldn't exist if it didn't.

And the core setting was Greyhawk, by the way.

Original poster is suggesting that AD&D is not the same game as D&D.

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[Storm Raven]

Original poster is suggesting that AD&D is not the same game as D&D.

Original poster's claim is at odds with reality since about 2001. The "A" was consciously dropped (as it was mostly a marketing label to begin with), but the 3rd edition version is intended to follow on the "AD&D" line.

 

[Tewligan]

The "A" was consciously dropped (as it was mostly a marketing label to begin with)

I wouldn't say it was a marketing label - it was there because it was more complex and ADVANCED than the Basic version of D&D which was being sold at the same time. The "Advanced" part of the name wasn't needed for 3e because Basic was no longer being sold when it came out, so no need to differentiate.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Original poster's claim is at odds with reality since about 2001. The "A" was consciously dropped (as it was mostly a marketing label to begin with), but the 3rd edition version is intended to follow on the "AD&D" line.

According to some gamers, it does so in name only. To others, in spirit too, but barely. It's just a different interpretation of the realities of the situation.

 

[Sitara]

*Sighs*

i'm not bashing anythign,nor sneakily infrencing anything. my quesiton is simple.

A game based and evolved from AD&D2e, like 4e is evolved from 3E. NOT a complete reimagining, restructuring and redesigning that occured from the 2e to 3e.

However many people 'got' it so thanks. Also, can I too have a link to the pdf that floating about please?

Anyhow, castles and crusades is, systemwise a step in the right direction that I would have liked to have seen. I would change a few things though, such as themagic system, add in more options such as talents (as dnd 3e did by putting in feats), except there would be fewer yet each would be broader in scope, they would customize the character more and have a larger flavorful effect. The talents in HARP would be a good example. Also, multiple class powers like trollords are doing with castle keepers guide.

 

[Ranger REG]

Just conjecturing here: What if someone buys off the AD&D liscense and tries to revive that line? So we could have AD&D third edition. Maybe DarkSun could be the core setting, or dragonlance.

Thoughts on how that would play out?

Well, it has to be literally "advanced." But considering how rules-heavy D&D 3e already is, I just don't know how much more rules difficulty can be appealing except to a few Mensa members that actually think D&D is not a waste of time.

 

[Flynn]

Sitara, you might want to chill a little bit. I think what you are looking for can be found here:
http://homepages.nyu.edu/~dp58/cnc.htm

Look at the section entitled "Houserules & CK Materials", and you want to download the "Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Player's Handbook" and "Unearthed Arcana" files.

I think it's a little less 2nd Edition and more 1st Edition in influence, but it might give you that which you seek, or at least a place to start.

With Regards,
Flynn

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

*Sighs*

i'm not bashing anythign,nor sneakily infrencing anything. my quesiton is simple.

A game based and evolved from AD&D2e, like 4e is evolved from 3E. NOT a complete reimagining, restructuring and redesigning that occured from the 2e to 3e.

Well, see, that IS bashing and it is sneakily inferring something, because you're presenting your opinion as objective fact.

Whether or not you think WotC did a good job of it, 3E is based on 2E, and in quite direct ways. That it isn't the direction you would have gone with it doesn't change that.

The fact that so many of your threads end up in a different place than you apparently intended them to go suggests that your posts may not be as clear as you think they are.

 

[sukael]

There is Hackmaster, considered by some to be AD&D 3e. It was licensed from the owner, too.

I'd say that HackMaster is pretty much the closest there is to an official sequel to 2e that actually keeps most of 2e's odd rule bits.

 

[DestroyYouAlot]

Well, see, that IS bashing and it is sneakily inferring something, because you're presenting your opinion as objective fact.

Whether or not you think WotC did a good job of it, 3E is based on 2E, and in quite direct ways. That it isn't the direction you would have gone with it doesn't change that.

Well, no, the disconnect between AD&D and d20 is pretty observable, especially with the 1e-2e shift available as a benchmark. And since he didn't make any statements deriding d20 in its own right, but rather observed what actually happened (and pondered what could've happened differently) any "bashing" is of your own creation - possibly from some amount of insecurity about d20's place as a successor to AD&D (which, I suppose, is perfectly understandable).