Wilted Swords on Minis

[Zander]

Except that the minis are not knowingly damaged by the company. That's just bull.

Really? The damaged mini with its weapon trapped in the packaging is damning evidence that it happened at source. Even if that was a freak occurrence and by some strange quirk of the universe all their other bent weapons didn't happen at source, it is irrefutable that they know the minis are being sold bent. You see, I brought it to their attention about two years ago. They thought it was amusing that someone should complain about it. I didn't find it amusing then and I don't find it amusing now.

And I do have a sense of humour. So say the editors of Dragon Magazine.

You seem to want to make my sense of humour (or lack thereof) a way of deflecting attention from the fact that they know that their minis are not being sold in stores and through mail order in good condition. Why are you trying to do that?

 

[Storminator]

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You seem to want to make my sense of humour (or lack thereof) a way of deflecting attention from the fact that they know that their minis are not being sold in stores and through mail order in good condition. Why are you trying to do that?

That's a different issue. In previous posts you were saying they were bending the minis on purpose. You seemed really fixated on that. And it wasn't true, and that's what I'm refuting.

Now you've moved on to them knowing that minis are damaged in shipping. Yup. It happens. And it's expensive to fix. Note that GW minis, in general, don't have this problem. GWs packaging is more expensive, and so are their minis.

But then there's the basic issue of bent swords. Straighten them. It's easy, I've never seen it break a sword, and on those occasions that I've had bad Reaper minis, I email them and they send me another, free of charge.

Hard to call that poor customer service.

I don't think we're going to get anywhere with this, so I'll not be continuing this discussion.

PS

 

[Dirigible]

I think there's one thing we can all agree on: the whitemtal pixies are responsiblefor the bending.

 

[mmu1]

If it happens during shipping how do explain the mini I got by mail order that had a bent weapon that was sealed between the blister and the card backing? That could only have happened when it was packaged.

I don't find expensive minis that are knowingly damaged by the company that makes them remotely funny.

God, lighten up a little. Just about every metal mini produced with weapons made to match the scale of the figure ends up getting bent a little
(My bet is this happens when they come out of the mold, flash is cleaned off, they're sorted, etc.) and I have yet to see one that couldn't be easily bent back into shape. (out of a couple of hundred Reapers I own) No one is "damaging" your miniatures, on purpose or otherwise.

The only metal minis that don't end up bending are cartoonish ones like GW Warhammer where the limbs are as thick as three-trunks and every sword is 1/8 of an inch thick and 50% larger than is realistic.

 

[mmu1]

Now you've moved on to them knowing that minis are damaged in shipping. Yup. It happens. And it's expensive to fix. Note that GW minis, in general, don't have this problem. GWs packaging is more expensive, and so are their minis.

Packaging and expense has nothing to do with it - it's all about the proportions of the figure. Their Lord of the Rings minis (which is their only line that doesn't have characters with fists the size of heads, spears like telephone poles, and swords that look like they belong in FFVII) end up with weapons just as bent as anything Reaper sells, despite that token bit of foam inside the blister.

 

[Zander]

That's a different issue. In previous posts you were saying they were bending the minis on purpose. You seemed really fixated on that. And it wasn't true, and that's what I'm refuting.

You're not "refuting" anything. To do that, you would need to present evidence. You've made a couple of suggestions at to why it might happen beyond their control but that is at best an assertion. I can do that too for the reverse argument.

Now you've moved on to them knowing that minis are damaged in shipping. Yup. It happens. And it's expensive to fix. Note that GW minis, in general, don't have this problem. GWs packaging is more expensive, and so are their minis.

The major reason that GW minis are more expensive is because of all the extremely expensive retail outlets GW has in the UK. Also, the type of damage that Reaper minis show tend not to be consistent with ones that occurr in shipping.

But then there's the basic issue of bent swords. Straighten them. It's easy, I've never seen it break a sword, and on those occasions that I've had bad Reaper minis, I email them and they send me another, free of charge.

A Reaper skeleton warrior's sword broke where the blade meets the guard depsite the fact I was being very careful and have 20 years' experince of straightening minis. I doubt they would have sent me a replacement as I'm in the UK.

Hard to call that poor customer service.

Hard to call making light of a customer's complaint good service.

I don't think we're going to get anywhere with this, so I'll not be continuing this discussion.

I accept your capitulation.

 

[Storminator]

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A Reaper skeleton warrior's sword broke where the blade meets the guard depsite the fact I was being very careful and have 20 years' experince of straightening minis. I doubt they would have sent me a replacement as I'm in the UK.

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You'd be wrong.

I have revised my opinion of you.

PS

 

[Holy Bovine]

Well this thread fell apart in a hurry.

I have used smooth pliers, heating and my fingers to straighten out bent swords and such. I haven't had a pewter one break before but the old lead ones were terrible for this. I have an entire box of unpainted broken lead minis that I scrounge for parts for other minis now. Most were the old Gernadier and Rafm minis.

And GWs prices are high because they liek to gouge and screw any poor bastard (not just you Viking ) who gets hooked on their games.

 

[Valiantheart]

Mebbe you should be a little more careful with your phraseology

I don't know about 'properly', but here's what I do: starting at the base, I use my fingers to warm the metal, then squeeze-bend it back into alignment, then move up doing the same. The downside is that WILL permanently weaken the metal.
Start at the base, because if you start at the tip you're more likely to snap it.

Umm, why did that sound like a minature repair technique straight out of the Book of Erotic Fantasy?

 

[Desdichado]

Just because "bonked" means "hit" in American slang doesn't mean it doesn't mean something rude in other dialects.
You're lucky Eric's Grandma is American.

It can mean that in American slang too. Although boinked probably sounds more natural.

Errr... I just bend 'em back. I've never had a problem with it.