Winnipeg Gamers

Every Spring and some Fall's, my group head out on a joint Fishing and Gaming weekend. Fish all day and game all night :D forget sleep :confused:

I have always thought it would be a good idea to expand this into a much larger group and rent a lodge or something, and then invite 'guest' DM's to entertain us. Although that might be somewhat more expensive than your average Con, it brings together two of the strengths of the Winnipeg/Manitoba area.
 

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devilbat said:
I would love to drive Wincon out of this city. Or better yet create a true RPG Con, rather then a "media" Con, or whatever those elitests call it.

Do you mean Keycon? Wincon is LONG gone.

And I doubt very much that Winnipeg can support a gaming-only con, despite the fact that personally I would be vastly more interested in that than in Keycon. (Exhibit A... Wincon is long gone.) I think the best way to go is to try to improve the gaming at Keycon (it's a travesty that there is NO d20 among the tiny handful of tabletop RPG events there). Brian Mitchell has done fairly impressive things on the TCG front; we need an RPG equivalent. And it ain't gonna be me; not nearly high enough of a profile, and I don't really have the people skills.
 

Do you mean Keycon? Wincon is LONG gone.

And I doubt very much that Winnipeg can support a gaming-only con, despite the fact that personally I would be vastly more interested in that than in Keycon. (Exhibit A... Wincon is long gone.) I think the best way to go is to try to improve the gaming at Keycon (it's a travesty that there is NO d20 among the tiny handful of tabletop RPG events there). Brian Mitchell has done fairly impressive things on the TCG front; we need an RPG equivalent. And it ain't gonna be me; not nearly high enough of a profile, and I don't really have the people skills.

You're right, I meant KeyCon, as a matter of fact I typed KeyCon, then for some reason edited to WinCon.

I tried to improve the gaming situation at KeyCon a few years ago. I ran four games throughout the weekend, which made out roughly 50% of all RPG'ing at the Con. I hooked them up with another guy who agreed to run some games, I supplied prizes for them, as well as donating a crap load of adventures and supplies. All I received from it was headaches, ungratefullness and attitude. They even had the audacity to tell me I couldn't visit their after hours hospitality areas, because I was a lowly "Volunteer". I personally think they wanted us out because we were garnering to much attention from their women. Needless to say I will never be back.


Every Spring and some Fall's, my group head out on a joint Fishing and Gaming weekend. Fish all day and game all night forget sleep

We used to do that as well, only the drinking, eating, hiking and water volleyball were more prevelant then gaming or fishing.
 

devilbat said:
I tried to improve the gaming situation at KeyCon a few years ago. I ran four games throughout the weekend, which made out roughly 50% of all RPG'ing at the Con. I hooked them up with another guy who agreed to run some games, I supplied prizes for them, as well as donating a crap load of adventures and supplies. All I received from it was headaches, ungratefullness and attitude. They even had the audacity to tell me I couldn't visit their after hours hospitality areas, because I was a lowly "Volunteer". I personally think they wanted us out because we were garnering to much attention from their women. Needless to say I will never be back.

There are lots of people involved in the running of Keycon in any given year who are ungrateful, power-tripping, insane, or some unholy combination of the three, no question. (The one good thing is that their identities change significantly every year, though a lot less than they try to make it sound like when they're addressing complaints and suggestions.) Staying in the hospitality areas is an especially sore spot, has been for years. It's been repeatedly complained about and it's always fallen on deaf ears because the people who are most obnoxious about it are usually the same people you have to complain to. And judging by how poorly I was treated the one year I asked if I could volunteer (they wouldn't let me, for no particular reason as far as I could tell, and they made it clear the perks of doing so were basically nonexistent anyway), I can only assume they treat their actual volunteers like utter crap compared to should-be-similar organizations I've done that sort of work for, no question there.

The SCA has decided not to participate this year, for similar reasons. Their demos are among the most popular events there; it costs them significant money to have the presence there that they normally do and they get next to nothing out of it (not even new members, usually - even the people most enthusiastic about the dance demo, for example, don't seem to make the connection that they can come out on a weekly basis and do exactly the same thing if they want). One prevailing opinion there, which I tend to think is probably right, is that Keycon needs the SCA more than the SCA needs Keycon. Another is that maybe pulling out for a year will make the Keycon people wake up and realize there are serious issues there. On this front, I think they are too optomistic. Most of the people involved are too thick-headed and egotistical to notice anything that isn't directly about them.

So yeah, I'm not surprised your experiences have sucked, and I don't blame you for having the attitude you do.

The world is run by those who show up. In the case of Winnipeg fandom, the sad truth is that most of the people who can be relied upon to be there to help organize the Con have little other than reliability going for them.

Now you've got me curious who you are. There's a pretty good chance you're someone I know, in fact I think I have a guess who. Would you mind PMing me your real name? (Or replying with it, if you're cool with that.) [EDIT: Never mind, apparently I can't receive PMs}
 
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Now you've got me curious who you are. There's a pretty good chance you're someone I know, in fact I think I have a guess who. Would you mind PMing me your real name? (Or replying with it, if you're cool with that.)

I highly doubt you know who I am, although I'd love to hear your guess. I keep myself at the very back of the gaming closet. I have a fairly high profile (not a local celebrity or politician, by any stretch), but in certain circles, I'm well known. The abuse I would receive from co-workers would be terrible, even if only one found out.

Feel free to email me at devilbat01 AT hotmail.com to continue the "Who am I?" conversation.


The SCA has decided not to participate this year, for similar reasons.

I am so happy to hear that.

Staying in the hospitality areas is an especially sore spot, has been for years. It's been repeatedly complained about and it's always fallen on deaf ears because the people who are most obnoxious about it are usually the same people you have to complain to.

I found them to be a very tight cliq. Once their women saw some new blood, the brood wanted us out of there fast. I guess it's their way of keeping girlfriends.

Anyway this seems to have moved far away from "Gamers meeting Gamers" in Winnipeg. I'll start up a Winnipeggers thread in the off topic section.

Everybody out of the pool and into the Hottub.
 

devilbat said:
I highly doubt you know who I am, although I'd love to hear your guess. I keep myself at the very back of the gaming closet. I have a fairly high profile (not a local celebrity or politician, by any stretch), but in certain circles, I'm well known. The abuse I would receive from co-workers would be terrible, even if only one found out.

I find that somewhat hard to believe. In this day and age, in a relatively liberal locale like Winnipeg, my default assumption - note, default, it is defeasible - is that the worst you'd get is some good-natured ribbing, even if you're a priest or something.
 

Remember Wingames?

About a 1,000 years ago (OK, maybe 21) I was president of the U of M Gaming Club and we ran a "gaming only" convention at the U of M - called WinGames. Not sure if any of you are old enough to remember that.
We had 128 D&D gamers in a single event that eventually got down to a single group of the best roleplayers. Everyone in the last group got a prize and the overall winner got a sword.

We also ran Call of Clthulu, Car Wars, Squad Leader, Top Secret and a bunch of other games.

I think it IS possible to run a gaming only convention, just that the first couple of years would be tough getting out the word of mouth.

Sponsors used to be pretty good, though there were more "big" gaming companies back then.
 

I think gaining sponsorship would be tough. Given the way the rpg market is going (i.e purchasing on the web) I doubt that either of the Winnipeg based stores cana fford to help support a con. Not to mention we would do everything we could to destroy the current Con, which is primarily controlled by the unfriendly folks at Pendragon. So no help from them.
 

Back to Original Topic - Gamers in Winnipeg

So, who wants to make the list and how do we make it available?

My name is Randy - I run one campaign twice a week (two different groups of players).
My primary game is Rolemaster, but I play nearly anything in RPGs and boardgames.

Next?
 

I'll post to keep this bumped.

I run a weekly to bi-weekly 3.5 ed. Forgotten Realms campaign. I have run many systems over the years but I keep coming back to D&D and Classic Deadlands. Two of the posters from this thread are in my game (Cyrivel and Lord Ryzner) and a third is a lurker around these parts.
 

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