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With 5E now under Community Commons, WotC is now "just" another 5E publisher -- here's how they can still dominate
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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8922184" data-attributes="member: 19857"><p>But that was already true under the OGL? Like, if Wizards went and released a new incompatible edition tomorrow and we were still where we were in November (i.e. SRD under the OGL, no claim that the OGL was able to be revoked or deauthorized), then people could still release 5e stuff. And 3e stuff.</p><p></p><p>But also - Wizards STILL has the power to change the conversation for everyone in the same way they did a month ago before this all happened. The CC-BY license doesn't change the fact that they own the brand Dungeons and Dragons and to a large degree they get to define what D&D is as far as what gets sold with the D&D logo on it. I personally don't think they will for "OneD&D/6e" or whatever it ends up being because we're far too late to make radical changes and get it out the door for the 50th anniversary next year (and rushing 4e out the door before it was done was one of the many mistakes made around 4th edition. I would hope they learned at least one lesson from their bumbling around 4e, even if they didn't seem to learn the "don't make the community mad because you need them to buy your stuff" lesson).</p><p></p><p>But 5 years from now they could release TwoD&D and have it be completely incompatible with 5e and not under an open license. And that will impact the conversation. Just like it did when they did the same thing with 4e. Either it will be massively successful and players will flock to it and they'll finally have shut down the concept of open gaming around D&D, or it'll be moderately successful but not nearly as successful as they need it to be to justify the amount of money they're spending on it, repeating the mistakes of 4th edition all over again. And people will keep playing and supporting 5e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8922184, member: 19857"] But that was already true under the OGL? Like, if Wizards went and released a new incompatible edition tomorrow and we were still where we were in November (i.e. SRD under the OGL, no claim that the OGL was able to be revoked or deauthorized), then people could still release 5e stuff. And 3e stuff. But also - Wizards STILL has the power to change the conversation for everyone in the same way they did a month ago before this all happened. The CC-BY license doesn't change the fact that they own the brand Dungeons and Dragons and to a large degree they get to define what D&D is as far as what gets sold with the D&D logo on it. I personally don't think they will for "OneD&D/6e" or whatever it ends up being because we're far too late to make radical changes and get it out the door for the 50th anniversary next year (and rushing 4e out the door before it was done was one of the many mistakes made around 4th edition. I would hope they learned at least one lesson from their bumbling around 4e, even if they didn't seem to learn the "don't make the community mad because you need them to buy your stuff" lesson). But 5 years from now they could release TwoD&D and have it be completely incompatible with 5e and not under an open license. And that will impact the conversation. Just like it did when they did the same thing with 4e. Either it will be massively successful and players will flock to it and they'll finally have shut down the concept of open gaming around D&D, or it'll be moderately successful but not nearly as successful as they need it to be to justify the amount of money they're spending on it, repeating the mistakes of 4th edition all over again. And people will keep playing and supporting 5e. [/QUOTE]
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