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<blockquote data-quote="Thaumaturge" data-source="post: 6348788" data-attributes="member: 1927"><p>I'd like to debate this point... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My super strict, laughable reading of that would be that you would roll a Hit Die, see the number, decide to spend another Hit Die, and then add the first Hit Die's modifier and finish adding those hit points to your current hit points. Then spend your next Hit Die. That's clearly ridiculous.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My guess is they mean roll initiative. Initiative tells you to make a Dex check, Ability Checks tells you that's a d20+Dex+proficiency bonus.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Definitely a good example of "roll" being used to mean the whole deal and not just the one die. Cool. Thanks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep. I'm not trying to trick you or get all "internet argument guy". I just seriously haven't been sure which is the intent of what was written. Your last point was a good one. You've made a couple of good points when you haven't been making statements about how those who disagree with you are refusing to read the rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I'm the one making this argument this morning, I'll guess you mean me. It's possible you don't. Either way, I see rules discussion. If I'm coming off as disingenuous or with an agenda...I'm sorry. I'm just trying to read things. My first read of the feat, without seeing any discussion was that the <em>roll</em> was modified not the total. There are others here who appear to have had the same first impression.</p><p></p><p>I thought I'd made it clear a few times that I'm just not certain how the feat should be read. I'm the DM at my table. The only time I play is once a year at Gen Con. I'll almost certainly never make a character who takes this feat. So I don't have a lot of skin in this game. </p><p></p><p>I haven't even figured out how I'll interpret things at my table. But I'm more than happy you've figured out how to interpret them at yours. Cool. And your interpretation and mine don't have to be the same and don't impact each other.</p><p></p><p>I should probably just go back to making joke posts. /Set agenda for silly.</p><p></p><p>Thaumaturge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thaumaturge, post: 6348788, member: 1927"] I'd like to debate this point... :) My super strict, laughable reading of that would be that you would roll a Hit Die, see the number, decide to spend another Hit Die, and then add the first Hit Die's modifier and finish adding those hit points to your current hit points. Then spend your next Hit Die. That's clearly ridiculous. My guess is they mean roll initiative. Initiative tells you to make a Dex check, Ability Checks tells you that's a d20+Dex+proficiency bonus. Definitely a good example of "roll" being used to mean the whole deal and not just the one die. Cool. Thanks. Yep. I'm not trying to trick you or get all "internet argument guy". I just seriously haven't been sure which is the intent of what was written. Your last point was a good one. You've made a couple of good points when you haven't been making statements about how those who disagree with you are refusing to read the rules. As I'm the one making this argument this morning, I'll guess you mean me. It's possible you don't. Either way, I see rules discussion. If I'm coming off as disingenuous or with an agenda...I'm sorry. I'm just trying to read things. My first read of the feat, without seeing any discussion was that the [I]roll[/I] was modified not the total. There are others here who appear to have had the same first impression. I thought I'd made it clear a few times that I'm just not certain how the feat should be read. I'm the DM at my table. The only time I play is once a year at Gen Con. I'll almost certainly never make a character who takes this feat. So I don't have a lot of skin in this game. I haven't even figured out how I'll interpret things at my table. But I'm more than happy you've figured out how to interpret them at yours. Cool. And your interpretation and mine don't have to be the same and don't impact each other. I should probably just go back to making joke posts. /Set agenda for silly. Thaumaturge. [/QUOTE]
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