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<blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6350797" data-attributes="member: 6774887">5e doesn't do it that way. I quoted the text of both 5e and 3e for comparison. 3e uses the term &quot;natural roll&quot; to reference the die roll and &quot;roll&quot; for the the total of the die roll + modifiers. 5e uses the term &quot;roll&quot; to only relate to the die roll. This is why the definition of attack roll in 5e says compare the total of the roll plus modifiers to the targets AC. In 3e, attack rolls say just compare the result to the targets AC. In 5e, the halfling lucky trait, the rogue reliable talent, and the champion expanded crit do not specify &quot;natural roll&quot; like they would in 3e. They only use the word roll. This is because roll means just the die roll. Mike Mearls even confirmed this on twitter. Roll in 5e is just the die roll. Durable sets the minimum of your roll to 2x Con mod. A 20 Con durable wizard regains 15 HP per HD spent. Yes, their minimum roll is more than the maximum possible result of their HD. All confirmed by Mike Mearls. P.S. The feat is still a crappy feat. It is almost always better to get the Tough Feat, Resilient Feat, or simply take +2 Con.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashkelon, post: 6350797, member: 6774887"] 5e doesn't do it that way. I quoted the text of both 5e and 3e for comparison. 3e uses the term "natural roll" to reference the die roll and "roll" for the the total of the die roll + modifiers. 5e uses the term "roll" to only relate to the die roll. This is why the definition of attack roll in 5e says compare the total of the roll plus modifiers to the targets AC. In 3e, attack rolls say just compare the result to the targets AC. In 5e, the halfling lucky trait, the rogue reliable talent, and the champion expanded crit do not specify "natural roll" like they would in 3e. They only use the word roll. This is because roll means just the die roll. Mike Mearls even confirmed this on twitter. Roll in 5e is just the die roll. Durable sets the minimum of your roll to 2x Con mod. A 20 Con durable wizard regains 15 HP per HD spent. Yes, their minimum roll is more than the maximum possible result of their HD. All confirmed by Mike Mearls. P.S. The feat is still a crappy feat. It is almost always better to get the Tough Feat, Resilient Feat, or simply take +2 Con. [/QUOTE]

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