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<blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6350815" data-attributes="member: 6774887">I suggest you re-read the 5e core rules. You seem to be confused on a number of them, and are using the 3e definitions for many terms.1) Damage RollsIn 5e, when you make a damage roll, you simply roll your weapons damage die or dice. Then you add modifiers to the dice roll. So the roll itself is again only the die roll, but you add modifiers to it. Look at tge wording for the Great weapon Fighting Style: &quot;you can reroll the die and must use the new roll, even if the new roll is a 1 or a 2.&quot; If the roll meant the die roll + modifiers, it would be impossible to get any benefit from this feature if you had a +2 or greater ability modifier.2) HD RollsThey don't exist. There is no such thing as a HD roll in 5e. You can spend HD during a short rest to regain HP, but there is no such thing as a HD roll. When you spend HD, you roll the die and add your Con modifier to the ROLL, and recover that much HP. The roll, is just the die roll, just like everyhting else in 5e. The roll is of course modified by other bonuses.3) TwitterMikes last tweets on the subject were these:mikemearls [MENTION=70206]Thing[/MENTION]sCalledArt yeaj, just looked at the feat. the min roll + con mod application is fine.ccarlson101 [MENTION=32417]MikeM[/MENTION]earls so a class with d6 or d8 HD and 20 con can use durable to get back more than max possible?mikmearls [MENTION=69329]ccarlson[/MENTION]101 yesSo you can see, it can't be any more clear than that. Mike was previously mistaken as he mentioned that some feature should say &quot;natural roll&quot;. He was in the 3e mindset with his first tweets on the subject. There is no such thing as a natural roll in 5e. He changed his mind and now agrees that the &quot;roll&quot; only relates to the die roll.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashkelon, post: 6350815, member: 6774887"] I suggest you re-read the 5e core rules. You seem to be confused on a number of them, and are using the 3e definitions for many terms. 1) Damage Rolls In 5e, when you make a damage roll, you simply roll your weapons damage die or dice. Then you add modifiers to the dice roll. So the roll itself is again only the die roll, but you add modifiers to it. Look at tge wording for the Great weapon Fighting Style: "you can reroll the die and must use the new roll, even if the new roll is a 1 or a 2." If the roll meant the die roll + modifiers, it would be impossible to get any benefit from this feature if you had a +2 or greater ability modifier. 2) HD Rolls They don't exist. There is no such thing as a HD roll in 5e. You can spend HD during a short rest to regain HP, but there is no such thing as a HD roll. When you spend HD, you roll the die and add your Con modifier to the ROLL, and recover that much HP. The roll, is just the die roll, just like everyhting else in 5e. The roll is of course modified by other bonuses. 3) Twitter Mikes last tweets on the subject were these: mikemearls [MENTION=70206]Thing[/MENTION]sCalledArt yeaj, just looked at the feat. the min roll + con mod application is fine. ccarlson101 [MENTION=32417]MikeM[/MENTION]earls so a class with d6 or d8 HD and 20 con can use durable to get back more than max possible? mikmearls [MENTION=69329]ccarlson[/MENTION]101 yes So you can see, it can't be any more clear than that. Mike was previously mistaken as he mentioned that some feature should say "natural roll". He was in the 3e mindset with his first tweets on the subject. There is no such thing as a natural roll in 5e. He changed his mind and now agrees that the "roll" only relates to the die roll. [/QUOTE]

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