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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6351357" data-attributes="member: 42582">I think it means that you roll the d20, then roll a d4 and add that to the result of the d20. Then you add the other modifiers that you enjoy to your attack roll. Nothing in the Bless spell says or implies that the 1d4 is the only modifier to be applied.I don't see why you think this supports your view. The word &quot;roll&quot; in ordinary English is not synonymous with the word &quot;total&quot;, nor the phrase &quot;the total of a die roll plus modifiers&quot;. [MENTION=6774887]Ashkelon[/MENTION] has posted plenty of examples that show the 5e rules using the word &quot;roll&quot; to denote the die roll only.I think it is a badly worded feat, and it would be helpful if WotC actually indicated how they intended it to be applied, rather than dealing with the matter through less-than-fully-clear tweets.I think the best reason for interpreting it in the way Ashkelon has suggested is this: a feat that makes your character durable is most likely going to be chosen by a player whose PC is a fighter or comparable warrior class. And a typical CON will be something like 16 or 18. For a character with a d10 HD and 16/18 CON, on your (variant's) reading of the feat, the feat takes the recovered hit points from 4-13/5-14 to 6-13/8-14. The averages are 8.5/9.5 going to 8.8/10.1. In other words, the feat gives a bonus per HD of less than +1 hp healed. This is incredibly weak.Whereas on Ashkelon's interpretation, the feat takes the results to 9-13/12-14, with averages of 10 and 12.3 respectively. So the feat gives in the neighbourhood of +2 hp healed per HD spent. That still doesn't seem super-powerful, but it might at least be worth thinking about.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6351357, member: 42582"] I think it means that you roll the d20, then roll a d4 and add that to the result of the d20. Then you add the other modifiers that you enjoy to your attack roll. Nothing in the Bless spell says or implies that the 1d4 is the only modifier to be applied. I don't see why you think this supports your view. The word "roll" in ordinary English is not synonymous with the word "total", nor the phrase "the total of a die roll plus modifiers". [MENTION=6774887]Ashkelon[/MENTION] has posted plenty of examples that show the 5e rules using the word "roll" to denote the die roll only. I think it is a badly worded feat, and it would be helpful if WotC actually indicated how they intended it to be applied, rather than dealing with the matter through less-than-fully-clear tweets. I think the best reason for interpreting it in the way Ashkelon has suggested is this: a feat that makes your character [I]durable[/I] is most likely going to be chosen by a player whose PC is a fighter or comparable warrior class. And a typical CON will be something like 16 or 18. For a character with a d10 HD and 16/18 CON, on your (variant's) reading of the feat, the feat takes the recovered hit points from 4-13/5-14 to 6-13/8-14. The averages are 8.5/9.5 going to 8.8/10.1. In other words, the feat gives a bonus per HD of less than +1 hp healed. This is incredibly weak. Whereas on Ashkelon's interpretation, the feat takes the results to 9-13/12-14, with averages of 10 and 12.3 respectively. So the feat gives in the neighbourhood of +2 hp healed per HD spent. That still doesn't seem super-powerful, but it might at least be worth thinking about. [/QUOTE]

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