Wizardru's Story Hour (updated 11/21)

[dravot]

Heh, do you want to tell him, Sandain, or should I?

You mock me, sir.

Ding! I hit level 24 this past session. I'm looking at epic feats. IMO, the epic feats for clerics in the ELH are the suck (or Dravot doesn't qualify for them right now). There are a couple on the WotC site that are promising though.

I'll prolly go with Epic Combat Casting.

 

[Seule]

Have you looked into Shielded Casting from Races of Stone? Similar effect, different requirements. Plus, it's not Epic. I can't remember exactly what the Epic feat does, but I'd compare the two before choosing.

--Seule

 

[dravot]

Have you looked into Shielded Casting from Races of Stone? Similar effect, different requirements. Plus, it's not Epic. I can't remember exactly what the Epic feat does, but I'd compare the two before choosing.

--Seule

I don't have that book, so I'm not familiar with it. The epic feat means that Dravot won't take AoOs when casting a spell in a threatened space. Right now, he has to make a pretty easy concentration check (24 for a 9th level spell, with a +33 for his concentration roll), so in it almost seems like a wasted feat, but if there's ever a situation where there's negative modifiers, I'll be covered.

And 'plus, it's not epic' doesn't really help at this point. Taking a non-epic feat is a waste of an opportunity (unless it's a qualifier for a different epic feat).

 

[Seule]

Well, Shielded Casting means you don't provoke AoOs for casting as long as you have a shield. The Epic feat appears better, but not having the text handy I was thinking it might just provide a hefty bonus, like Epic Skill Focus does.
Obviously, under the circumstances, Epic Combat Casting is the way to go.
Personally, if you have any Metamagic feats, I'm a big fan of picking up higher level slots. Heck, even if you don't, you can always use them for more 9th level spells.

--Seule

 

[WizarDru]

You mock me, sir.

Ding! I hit level 24 this past session. I'm looking at epic feats. IMO, the epic feats for clerics in the ELH are the suck (or Dravot doesn't qualify for them right now). There are a couple on the WotC site that are promising though.

I'll prolly go with Epic Combat Casting.

He does, indeed. However, unlike Chavram's little secret (which I managed not to reveal for over two years), the truth of Scorch's origins was merely a good fit, suggested by our humble readership quite recently. I had a different idea for Scorch originally, but this fit events and the game so much better, that I ran with it. I had always intended to link Scorch to the ancient Suloise Empire by virtue of blood....this just made more sense, and was more fun.

Other possible feat selections?

From Races of Stone: Divine Spellshield - Spend a turning check to give a +2 Sacred bonus to saves against spells to all your allies within 30 feet.

Shielded Casting allows you to cast a spell without incurring an AoO, but only while holding a shield.

From Complete Divine: Quicken Turning - You can make a turn check as a free action.

Spell Focus (Good, Evil, Chaos, Law): clerical spell focus, basically.
Glorious Weapons: Use a Turn Check to grant any allied weapon with 60' the Good or Evil alignment.

There is also is the Divine Spell Power feat, which appears to be exactly the same as the Spellchanneling feat, from what I can tell.


Epic Level spellcasting is....tricky. I still haven't figured out what to do about it, yet.

 

[dravot]

He does, indeed. However, unlike Chavram's little secret (which I managed not to reveal for over two years), the truth of Scorch's origins was merely a good fit, suggested by our humble readership quite recently. I had a different idea for Scorch originally, but this fit events and the game so much better, that I ran with it. I had always intended to link Scorch to the ancient Suloise Empire by virtue of blood....this just made more sense, and was more fun.

Oooh. That's mean.

Other possible feat selections?

From Races of Stone: Divine Spellshield - Spend a turning check to give a +2 Sacred bonus to saves against spells to all your allies within 30 feet.

Shielded Casting allows you to cast a spell without incurring an AoO, but only while holding a shield.

From Complete Divine: Quicken Turning - You can make a turn check as a free action.

Spell Focus (Good, Evil, Chaos, Law): clerical spell focus, basically.
Glorious Weapons: Use a Turn Check to grant any allied weapon with 60' the Good or Evil alignment.

There is also is the Divine Spell Power feat, which appears to be exactly the same as the Spellchanneling feat, from what I can tell.

Epic Level spellcasting is....tricky. I still haven't figured out what to do about it, yet.

You almost shot coke through your nose when I tried to suggest Spellchannelling

I'll poke around Complete Divine tonight, and BoED as well. We shall see.

I'd love for epic spellcasting to work as advertised, but until we decide how to make it work, the point is moot.

 

[LordVyreth]

Why not just use the same "epic caster" feats arcane casters usually dash for at epic? You know, getting 10th+ level spells, permanent metamagic on spells, some of the biggee metamagic feats. You might even convince Wizardru to extend 3.5 feat concepts to create Sudden Intensify Spell!

...Okay, that's not too likely. But worth asking!

I don't have the ELH with me at the moment, so I don't know all the prereqs, but I remember a few decent cleric feats in the book. What about extra domains, spontenous domain casting, or that one that lets you turn outsiders?

 

[LordVyreth]

And for the record, it sounds like all the big nasty stuff this time was not my fault. I just supplied last game's cannon fodder so far. The other fun came from other helpful contributors!

 

[dravot]

Why not just use the same "epic caster" feats arcane casters usually dash for at epic? You know, getting 10th+ level spells, permanent metamagic on spells, some of the biggee metamagic feats. You might even convince Wizardru to extend 3.5 feat concepts to create Sudden Intensify Spell!

...Okay, that's not too likely. But worth asking!

I don't have the ELH with me at the moment, so I don't know all the prereqs, but I remember a few decent cleric feats in the book. What about extra domains, spontenous domain casting, or that one that lets you turn outsiders?

1) I have 4 domains already. How many do you want me to have?
2) I can already turn outsiders (I have that feat)
3) Spontaneous domain isn't available until 27th level (needing 30 ranks of spellcraft)

Hence my quandry.

 

[Sandain]

*hums and looks around innocently*

Well, I may have had a small contribution with regards to Zinkman, Slerotin, and the Clones. Only small though. And I NEVER intended for Wizardru to take my ideas seriously. Its all his fault really.

Lord Vyreth and Jester are the ones you should be hating on. They are feeding Wizardru's sick addiction for nasty monsters. There should be some kind of rehab program for RBDM's.

It would go something like this....

PirateCate: We have a new member today, his name is Wizardru. Why dont you tell us about yourself Wizardru?

Wizardru: Hi....im a bit nervous...oh well here goes... I am a a a RBDM! and I have been tormenting my group for many years now. Im addicted. Hopelessly addicted to screwing with them in every way I can. I just cant help myself.

(Contact), Sagiro, Jester; Its alright, your among other RBDM's now, we can help each other...