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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9108840" data-attributes="member: 6750235">I'm on board with the idea the wizards are often over-rated while people complain about other arcane spell casters but wizards don't "suck".  Many of the subclasses aren't interesting and I can see that concern, but as an arcane caster they have the largest spell list, best ritual mechanics, and easiest access to change those spells.  The easiest way to play a wizard is to load up on rituals to cast from a spell book so that the character can load up on other prepped spells.  Prepped spells plus rituals is a larger number of spells options available at any given time over other arcane casters.  Take some staple spells and some useful spells not available to other arcane classes (or too situational for a spells known list) and the wizard has clear advantages over those other casters.<table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Level </td><td>Bard </td><td>Sorcerer </td><td>Warlock </td><td>Wizard (book) </td><td>Wizard (prep) </td></tr><tr><td>1 </td><td>4 </td><td>2 </td><td>2 </td><td>6 </td><td>4 </td></tr><tr><td>2 </td><td>5 </td><td>3 </td><td>3 </td><td>8 </td><td>5 </td></tr><tr><td>3 </td><td>6 </td><td>4 </td><td>4 </td><td>10 </td><td>6 </td></tr><tr><td>4 </td><td>7 </td><td>5 </td><td>5 </td><td>12 </td><td>8 </td></tr><tr><td>5 </td><td>8 </td><td>6 </td><td>6 </td><td>14 </td><td>9 </td></tr><tr><td>6 </td><td>9 </td><td>7 </td><td>7 </td><td>16 </td><td>10 </td></tr><tr><td>7 </td><td>10 </td><td>8 </td><td>8 </td><td>18 </td><td>11 </td></tr><tr><td>8 </td><td>11 </td><td>9 </td><td>9 </td><td>20 </td><td>13 </td></tr><tr><td>9 </td><td>12 </td><td>10 </td><td>10 </td><td>22 </td><td>14 </td></tr><tr><td>10 </td><td>14 </td><td>11 </td><td>10 </td><td>24 </td><td>15 </td></tr></table>Currently, sorcerers and warlocks cannot use rituals in the base class and tome warlocks have other differences.  Bards can afford only a few rituals.  A 1st level wizard can prep 4 spells and access 2 rituals outside of prep for 6 spell options and clearly more.  A 10th level wizard can prep 15 spells and have and easily have 8+ rituals and clearly have a lot more spell options at any given time.It's a valid point that wizard work within a subset of their spell list but that ignores the fact that the spells known arcane casters are also working with a subset of their own smaller spell lists.  Wizard gain access to a larger subset far faster than those other arcane spell casters.  It's a valid point that wizards work within a subset of their spells but it's not a good point for a complaint against wizards when those other classes work within a smaller subset of a smaller list gaining slower access.  The table above does not include the option to learn new spells via scroll, spell book, or possible research; which is an additional advantage.  The ability to expanding that subset of spells for gp is a benefit wizards have over other arcane spell casters, not a disadvantage.The wizard trope of an intelligent spell caster carrying around a book and casting spells (rituals) from it is met within the game mechanics.  The wizard is that arcane ritual caster.  5e24-UA5 does support that better with the wizard.  Modify spell and create spell to add ritual tags to qualifying spells does increase the wizard's ritual range.  Those wizard abilities gave the wizards the ability to have better versions of any arcane list spell in their book for some gold and downtime; expensive but worthwhile.I am not seeing arguments here that justify "wizards suck".  It looks more like "wizards suck because other classes exist and can do stuff too"....  '-)</blockquote>

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