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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9126696" data-attributes="member: 87792">This is of course the big problem with 5e.Spells in the wizard's spell book can still be cast as rituals. Wizards have:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The biggest and best spell list.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The joint most spells prepared of any base class</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">More spells prepared than a sorcerer even knows - and that's not even counting the other spells in the wizard's book</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The ability to cast spells they haven't prepared</li> </ol>Any wizard being outclassed by a pre-Tasha's sorcerer is because the wizard is being played badly or the sorcerer is being played exceptionally well. Probably both.Yes. It's way more powerful than a pre-Tasha's sorcerer.That's because their base class has the strongest spellcasting of any class.This is simply not true. The wizard has a class ability (including ASIs) at every even level and gets an extra level of spells at every odd level. The PHB sorcerer doesn't get anything at 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, and 15 - and like the wizard only gets ASIs at 4, 8, 12, and 16.There is no spell that requires material components from a wizard that doesn't require them from a sorcerer. Your problem here boils down to the fact that the wizard has the biggest and bestest spell list of any class.Which applies whether you are a wizard or a sorcerer.You do realise that that is the only sorcerer exclusive spell in the game? And "it's better than a terrible spell no one uses" doesn't make it good.I tell you what. We'll trade the wizard getting access to all sorcerer exclusive spells for the sorcerer getting access to all wizard-exclusive spells. Who do you think wins?If the wizard is demanding a diamond so they can cast Chromatic Orb it's the wizard being a d-bag. Meanwhile there are plenty of spells the wizard can cast without expensive material components (including every single component-free spell on the sorcerer list except Chaos Bolt) but the martials need expensive armour.Find Familiar. Grease. Phantom Steed. Wall of Force.... you have heard of a material component pouch? And you do realise that components aren't normally used up when casting?There are a tiny handful of spells with expensive components. And the most costly casters are in my experience clerics - 300GP of diamonds that are consumed per Revivify.</blockquote>

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