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Message: <blockquote data-quote="homunculus23" data-source="post: 9126840" data-attributes="member: 7032602">Socerors can also cast rituals. It takes 10 mins, and rest of the party wants to move on.Ok, but they cannot have all those spells at once. They are limited to the number of spells they memorize. Right? Or are you one that doesn't play wizards right - oh if you have it in your book. DM does not ask what you memorized today The "joint most"?The other spells in the book would immaterial, as it takes a long rest to rememorizeNo - they need to prepare spells. Even a ritual must be prepared to be cast as a ritual.It honestly seems like you've never played a wizard. How is your information so wrong?No, they don't. Look below:[ATTACH=full]294945[/ATTACH]No class ability at 3rd, nothing at 5th, nothing at 7th. Here is a Soceror:[ATTACH=full]294946[/ATTACH]3rd level they both get access to level 2 spells, and the Soceror get metamagic. The wizard gets nothing.At this point, it is obvuse that you're not looking at the wizard class, and just ranting and don't know the game. Material componets are not used, but if they have a cost it cannot be replaced with a componet pouch. And if the martial characters, after they got their "expensive armor" and greatsword they stared with want to hord, they are being the real a$$hats.</blockquote>