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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9126945" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>And you can say the same about any two barbarians.</p><p></p><p>And I've played two Celestial Pact warlocks (the only subclass I've doubled down on) who were about this difference. No spells in common, no invocations in common (yes, one of them didn't have Eldritch Blast). And they couldn't have swapped over with getting each others' spell books. "The breadth of a subclass" doesn't mean no breadth at all.</p><p></p><p>So the way you made this one work differently was ... by spending almost half your levels on ... not being a wizard.</p><p></p><p>Again, this feels like same subclass, different background.</p><p></p><p>The problem with the Life cleric is that they excel at one thing. It's an important thing but you can have too much of it - and you don't like what it does. But if we take Life Cleric as a class you can have a seasoned adventurer (your first one), a street rat (your second), a multiclass, and an academic quasi-thief. They will be less different from each other because they can always prepare each others' spells; the wizard is a <em>good</em> subclass because it's got picked spells rather than the entire list. But all the personality and background parts you've mentioned apply to any class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 9126945, member: 87792"] And you can say the same about any two barbarians. And I've played two Celestial Pact warlocks (the only subclass I've doubled down on) who were about this difference. No spells in common, no invocations in common (yes, one of them didn't have Eldritch Blast). And they couldn't have swapped over with getting each others' spell books. "The breadth of a subclass" doesn't mean no breadth at all. So the way you made this one work differently was ... by spending almost half your levels on ... not being a wizard. Again, this feels like same subclass, different background. The problem with the Life cleric is that they excel at one thing. It's an important thing but you can have too much of it - and you don't like what it does. But if we take Life Cleric as a class you can have a seasoned adventurer (your first one), a street rat (your second), a multiclass, and an academic quasi-thief. They will be less different from each other because they can always prepare each others' spells; the wizard is a [I]good[/I] subclass because it's got picked spells rather than the entire list. But all the personality and background parts you've mentioned apply to any class. [/QUOTE]
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