Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Wizards Do Suck;)
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9138570" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>A Wizard is an expert at CASTING spells. The fighter with a much better Arcana is more of an expert ABOUT spells. It is exactly the same as the racecar driver or the marksman.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly, so the fighter can be better at the theory behind spell casting, about how it works.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He doesn't get to bully me out of MY THEME either. Why does he own this theme and not me?</p><p></p><p>As a point of fact I am better than him and we on a team. Use your best man. If I am on a soccer team and it is a tie and comes down to a shoot out and the goalie is better at that than one of the forwards the goalie is going to take the shots and the TEAM should want him taking the shots.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I decide what my role is, it is not decided by my class and if I am better than one of my TEAMATES they should defer that role to me in the spirit of teamwork.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure and that happens often.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree and I won't be. But on the other hand if we are petitioning the king and only one of us can get an audience and talk it should logically be me and it should not be the other guy just because he has "Paladin" written on his character sheet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sometimes and sometimes not. Sure if everyone can roll then the guy with a -2 should give it a shot as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not really I don't think.</p><p></p><p></p><p>At low level it absolutely does make him better at it. </p><p></p><p>A 1st level Wizard with an 18 Dex or Strength is going to be better at fighting with weapons than a Fighter with a 14 strength or dexterity. He just will be. Make that Wizard a Dwarf with weapon and armor proficiencies and he will be a lot better than a fighter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is not true. It depends entirely on what you are trying to do.</p><p></p><p>Activating a magic item is a common Arcana check and that can usually only be done by one person at a time. When we tried to activate a portal it was one person that did it and if he failed something bad would happen (he never actually failed), to include both. </p><p></p><p>My character (who had I think a -1 Arcana) did actually try and fail once in a split party situation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes it does. If you put the points there it is by definition in theme with the character regardless of what class or classes that character is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes it does. If you can replace it, then it becomes part of that characters theme.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Theme: the subject of a talk, a piece of writing, a person's thoughts, or an exhibition; a topic.</em></p><p></p><p>I think you are the one who needs more understanding of what it means.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EXACTLY! You are finally starting to get it. The player defines the theme.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It absolutely does, as long as it applies within the definition above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Page 125. "<em>Your background reveals where you came from, how you became an adventurer, and your place in the world"</em></p><p></p><p> The skills you select are part of the background and the background specifically does what it says above according to RAW. It is all in there, you just need to read it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9138570, member: 7030563"] A Wizard is an expert at CASTING spells. The fighter with a much better Arcana is more of an expert ABOUT spells. It is exactly the same as the racecar driver or the marksman. Exactly, so the fighter can be better at the theory behind spell casting, about how it works. He doesn't get to bully me out of MY THEME either. Why does he own this theme and not me? As a point of fact I am better than him and we on a team. Use your best man. If I am on a soccer team and it is a tie and comes down to a shoot out and the goalie is better at that than one of the forwards the goalie is going to take the shots and the TEAM should want him taking the shots. I decide what my role is, it is not decided by my class and if I am better than one of my TEAMATES they should defer that role to me in the spirit of teamwork. Sure and that happens often. I agree and I won't be. But on the other hand if we are petitioning the king and only one of us can get an audience and talk it should logically be me and it should not be the other guy just because he has "Paladin" written on his character sheet. Sometimes and sometimes not. Sure if everyone can roll then the guy with a -2 should give it a shot as well. Not really I don't think. At low level it absolutely does make him better at it. A 1st level Wizard with an 18 Dex or Strength is going to be better at fighting with weapons than a Fighter with a 14 strength or dexterity. He just will be. Make that Wizard a Dwarf with weapon and armor proficiencies and he will be a lot better than a fighter. That is not true. It depends entirely on what you are trying to do. Activating a magic item is a common Arcana check and that can usually only be done by one person at a time. When we tried to activate a portal it was one person that did it and if he failed something bad would happen (he never actually failed), to include both. My character (who had I think a -1 Arcana) did actually try and fail once in a split party situation. Yes it does. If you put the points there it is by definition in theme with the character regardless of what class or classes that character is. Yes it does. If you can replace it, then it becomes part of that characters theme. [I]Theme: the subject of a talk, a piece of writing, a person's thoughts, or an exhibition; a topic.[/I] I think you are the one who needs more understanding of what it means. EXACTLY! You are finally starting to get it. The player defines the theme. It absolutely does, as long as it applies within the definition above. Page 125. "[I]Your background reveals where you came from, how you became an adventurer, and your place in the world"[/I] The skills you select are part of the background and the background specifically does what it says above according to RAW. It is all in there, you just need to read it. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Wizards Do Suck;)
Top