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<blockquote data-quote="GregoryOatmeal" data-source="post: 6509609" data-attributes="member: 6667661"><p>Man...I'd really like a few of those APs in 5E format. Particularly Kingmaker. And some of those monsters and classes. I don't buy this "PF and 5E are apples and oranges" stuff at all. A good Pathfinder adventure translates just fine to 5E. You can run Forgotten Realms all day in Pathfinder and Golarion all day in 5E without any translation. Adventures take a bit more work balancing encounters and remaking monsters, but the systems are not worlds apart.</p><p></p><p>I think it's possible (remotely?) to see Paizo do 5E with a good OGL. A few points worth noting</p><p>- Paizo claims their profits are primarily based on selling accessory books - adventure paths, adventures, supplements, etc.</p><p>- WOTC claimed their profits are primarily based on selling core books. I think this is probably still true since they are publishing very little material outside the core books lately.</p><p>- Paizo is going to print themselves into a glut of materials and saturate their own market. Pathfinder GMs have enough material to game forever. This will hurt sales and cause Paizo to reevaluate their business.</p><p>- 5E will also hurt sales and cause Paizo to reevaluate their business. They are in very direct (albeit friendly) competition and 5E is the shiny new trendy product right now. People may still play Pathfinder (moreso...maybe...) but Pathfinder will generally be the product that everyone already purchased.</p><p></p><p>So in short, due to reinvigorated competition, market saturation, and a point of maturity in the product cycle, Pathfinder's best days of sales are behind us. Paizo will have a few options:</p><p>- Branch out further into card games, board games, minis, etc.</p><p>- Create a Pathfinder 2nd Edition. This could be very risky and alienating to a fan base that is sort of built around preserving a gaming tradition started by 3rd edition.</p><p>- Build 5E OGL products. Paizo could also benefit from the increased brand recognition they now have from years of Pathfinder.</p><p></p><p>Me - I love WOTC and love Paizo. I used to give a lot of money to Paizo, but that dried up with 5E. I would love for there to be more 5E materials and I would love to buy more Paizo products. I bought most of my Paizo stuff between 2010-2012. I think I was almost completely unaware of the company before then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GregoryOatmeal, post: 6509609, member: 6667661"] Man...I'd really like a few of those APs in 5E format. Particularly Kingmaker. And some of those monsters and classes. I don't buy this "PF and 5E are apples and oranges" stuff at all. A good Pathfinder adventure translates just fine to 5E. You can run Forgotten Realms all day in Pathfinder and Golarion all day in 5E without any translation. Adventures take a bit more work balancing encounters and remaking monsters, but the systems are not worlds apart. I think it's possible (remotely?) to see Paizo do 5E with a good OGL. A few points worth noting - Paizo claims their profits are primarily based on selling accessory books - adventure paths, adventures, supplements, etc. - WOTC claimed their profits are primarily based on selling core books. I think this is probably still true since they are publishing very little material outside the core books lately. - Paizo is going to print themselves into a glut of materials and saturate their own market. Pathfinder GMs have enough material to game forever. This will hurt sales and cause Paizo to reevaluate their business. - 5E will also hurt sales and cause Paizo to reevaluate their business. They are in very direct (albeit friendly) competition and 5E is the shiny new trendy product right now. People may still play Pathfinder (moreso...maybe...) but Pathfinder will generally be the product that everyone already purchased. So in short, due to reinvigorated competition, market saturation, and a point of maturity in the product cycle, Pathfinder's best days of sales are behind us. Paizo will have a few options: - Branch out further into card games, board games, minis, etc. - Create a Pathfinder 2nd Edition. This could be very risky and alienating to a fan base that is sort of built around preserving a gaming tradition started by 3rd edition. - Build 5E OGL products. Paizo could also benefit from the increased brand recognition they now have from years of Pathfinder. Me - I love WOTC and love Paizo. I used to give a lot of money to Paizo, but that dried up with 5E. I would love for there to be more 5E materials and I would love to buy more Paizo products. I bought most of my Paizo stuff between 2010-2012. I think I was almost completely unaware of the company before then. [/QUOTE]
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