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<blockquote data-quote="Xenonnonex" data-source="post: 7807308" data-attributes="member: 7015664">Yet it is common sense. Which has been so aptly demonstrated is not so common.No because even my anecdote follows on from and backs up what is posed. I presume the cases where people have rediscovered their love for rpgs after a lengthy hiatus are likewise inexperienced. And there is quite a large number of people rediscovering their loves for rpgs after playing 5e. It is great to lump these gamers into the same basket. You would also get inexperienced gamers professing their love for 5e because 5e is streamlined enough for ease of play. But be sure to criticize the inexperience these gamers have and their love for the hobby.I am sure the mechanics in Adventures in Middle Earth, Esper Genesis and Ultramodern5 to name a few are a complete retread with lots of reskinned ideas and mechanics. I am sure that all of <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/list-of-5e-powered-rpgs.660438/" target="_blank">the standalone 5e powered rpgs</a> that don't require the core rules to run them are just a retreading of similar ideas with reskinned ideas and mechanics. I am sure all of these products are just doing the same thing with little actual mechanical innovation.Then continue playing those systems. And since it is bothering you so much get out of playing 5e. Our group did that. And we are all the more happier for it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xenonnonex, post: 7807308, member: 7015664"] Yet it is common sense. Which has been so aptly demonstrated is not so common. No because even my anecdote follows on from and backs up what is posed. I presume the cases where people have rediscovered their love for rpgs after a lengthy hiatus are likewise inexperienced. And there is quite a large number of people rediscovering their loves for rpgs after playing 5e. It is great to lump these gamers into the same basket. You would also get inexperienced gamers professing their love for 5e because 5e is streamlined enough for ease of play. But be sure to criticize the inexperience these gamers have and their love for the hobby. I am sure the mechanics in Adventures in Middle Earth, Esper Genesis and Ultramodern5 to name a few are a complete retread with lots of reskinned ideas and mechanics. I am sure that all of [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/list-of-5e-powered-rpgs.660438/']the standalone 5e powered rpgs[/URL] that don't require the core rules to run them are just a retreading of similar ideas with reskinned ideas and mechanics. I am sure all of these products are just doing the same thing with little actual mechanical innovation. Then continue playing those systems. And since it is bothering you so much get out of playing 5e. Our group did that. And we are all the more happier for it. [/QUOTE]

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