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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 6769745" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I've got a few various points, some personal quirks and annoyances, others more relevant.</p><p></p><p>My first though when reading the OP was thinking back to the WotC forums and there being quite a few DM's whose opinion was "I hate dragonborn so no dragonborn will ever appear at my game table ever" and that attitude strikes me as completely unfair. If you've got a good story or thematic reason and it is for this one campaign, then it can be more reasonable, but the complete auto-ban rubs me the wrong way.</p><p></p><p>However, a thematic campaign is actually very interesting. As a writer I know that limitations and restrictions can make people more creative to a certain degree and a human or elf or dwarf only game has a very different flavour that could be ruined by the inclusion of an off-base race. </p><p></p><p>As many people have said it is all a matter of communication. </p><p></p><p>I actually have a player side of the table story about something close. A good friend of mine was running his first ever campaign, sci-fi genre, and as the more experienced GM I helped him with mechanical tinkering for his various races and a few non-specific spitballing sessions to help keep his ideas flowing. However, when it came time to choose characters he was very taken aback that I wanted to play a human rather than one of these custom built races. From his perspective at first it seemed like I was snubbing my nose at these creatures we had spent all that time crafting. That wasn't the case though and I did get a chance to explain it to him. In fantasy I find it more interesting to play a race other than human, to try and inhuman perspective if I can. However, for Sci-Fi I don't want that feeling. I want to play as a human, I want to stand against the vast emptiness and shoulder to shoulder with these strange and powerful beings and conquer it all. There was even a picture with a quote I found, still have it, that encapsulated the idea for me "I was born without claws, without fangs, without scales. So I forged them in fire and crafted them of steel". That is the sci-fi human to me. As soon as we were on the same page he understood, but that moment of disconnect between what I as a player was trying to say with my character and what he as the DM was expecting might have turned out differently in a different set of circumstances.</p><p></p><p>Now for a pet peeve. I understand a lot of you guys have long standing or even multiple groups. Some of you play in big cities where you have no problem finding tables to game at. </p><p></p><p>That is not a universal truth, and it aggravates me whenever I see people suggesting that disagreements between DM and player can be as simple as the player leaving. If the game you are at is the only DnD game you know of within a 100 mile radius choosing to simply stop playing the game because you think the DM is a tool is not a choice you are likely to make. My personal gaming circle is very broken and scattered, I seem to always be playing with as many players as I can find available (which currently is three) and this idea that you can easily find another game if you want just does not hold true from where I am sitting. Though, I am working on expanding my circle it is not an easy thing to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 6769745, member: 6801228"] I've got a few various points, some personal quirks and annoyances, others more relevant. My first though when reading the OP was thinking back to the WotC forums and there being quite a few DM's whose opinion was "I hate dragonborn so no dragonborn will ever appear at my game table ever" and that attitude strikes me as completely unfair. If you've got a good story or thematic reason and it is for this one campaign, then it can be more reasonable, but the complete auto-ban rubs me the wrong way. However, a thematic campaign is actually very interesting. As a writer I know that limitations and restrictions can make people more creative to a certain degree and a human or elf or dwarf only game has a very different flavour that could be ruined by the inclusion of an off-base race. As many people have said it is all a matter of communication. I actually have a player side of the table story about something close. A good friend of mine was running his first ever campaign, sci-fi genre, and as the more experienced GM I helped him with mechanical tinkering for his various races and a few non-specific spitballing sessions to help keep his ideas flowing. However, when it came time to choose characters he was very taken aback that I wanted to play a human rather than one of these custom built races. From his perspective at first it seemed like I was snubbing my nose at these creatures we had spent all that time crafting. That wasn't the case though and I did get a chance to explain it to him. In fantasy I find it more interesting to play a race other than human, to try and inhuman perspective if I can. However, for Sci-Fi I don't want that feeling. I want to play as a human, I want to stand against the vast emptiness and shoulder to shoulder with these strange and powerful beings and conquer it all. There was even a picture with a quote I found, still have it, that encapsulated the idea for me "I was born without claws, without fangs, without scales. So I forged them in fire and crafted them of steel". That is the sci-fi human to me. As soon as we were on the same page he understood, but that moment of disconnect between what I as a player was trying to say with my character and what he as the DM was expecting might have turned out differently in a different set of circumstances. Now for a pet peeve. I understand a lot of you guys have long standing or even multiple groups. Some of you play in big cities where you have no problem finding tables to game at. That is not a universal truth, and it aggravates me whenever I see people suggesting that disagreements between DM and player can be as simple as the player leaving. If the game you are at is the only DnD game you know of within a 100 mile radius choosing to simply stop playing the game because you think the DM is a tool is not a choice you are likely to make. My personal gaming circle is very broken and scattered, I seem to always be playing with as many players as I can find available (which currently is three) and this idea that you can easily find another game if you want just does not hold true from where I am sitting. Though, I am working on expanding my circle it is not an easy thing to do. [/QUOTE]
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