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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6770175" data-attributes="member: 22779">See, but, here's the rub - why does that have to be 100% on the players?&nbsp; Why is it the players have to learn to accept &quot;no&quot;?&nbsp; Isn't there some point where the DM should put aside his ego and let the player have what the player wants?&nbsp; It's all very well and good to talk about &quot;respect for the DM&quot;, but, that's a two way street.&nbsp; Again, presuming everyone is acting in good faith, the player isn't trying to &quot;pull a fast one&quot; when he asks to play a gnome in the game.&nbsp; The player has a concept that the player feels fits with the campaign.Now, there's certainly reasons that are a lot easier to accept than others.&nbsp; If I'm running a specific setting, for example, and that setting doesn't have gnomes, or has very specific gnomes, then sure, no worries.&nbsp; I mean, if someone pitched a cannibal halting in my Forgotten Realms game, it would be a pretty hard sell.&nbsp; OTOH, if the PC fits within the campaign, but the DM is simply vetoing it because the DM doesn't like it, then I generally don't feel comfortable with that.&nbsp; Then again, as a DM, given the choice between having an enthusiastic player who is engaged with his character and protecting the setting, I'll get out the magic eraser and change my setting at the drop of a hat.&nbsp; Does not bother me in the slightest.&nbsp; Settings are there to serve the characters, not the other way around.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6770175, member: 22779"] See, but, here's the rub - why does that have to be 100% on the players? Why is it the players have to learn to accept "no"? Isn't there some point where the DM should put aside his ego and let the player have what the player wants? It's all very well and good to talk about "respect for the DM", but, that's a two way street. Again, presuming everyone is acting in good faith, the player isn't trying to "pull a fast one" when he asks to play a gnome in the game. The player has a concept that the player feels fits with the campaign. Now, there's certainly reasons that are a lot easier to accept than others. If I'm running a specific setting, for example, and that setting doesn't have gnomes, or has very specific gnomes, then sure, no worries. I mean, if someone pitched a cannibal halting in my Forgotten Realms game, it would be a pretty hard sell. OTOH, if the PC fits within the campaign, but the DM is simply vetoing it because the DM doesn't like it, then I generally don't feel comfortable with that. Then again, as a DM, given the choice between having an enthusiastic player who is engaged with his character and protecting the setting, I'll get out the magic eraser and change my setting at the drop of a hat. Does not bother me in the slightest. Settings are there to serve the characters, not the other way around. [/QUOTE]

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