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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7767822" data-attributes="member: 37579">Firstly, vampire was first released in 1991. Almost twenty-years after TTRPGs started. So far from being among the &quot;oldest&quot;.Second, it's not killed. It's under new management.Third, it wasn't PC activists. It was the audience and reviewers. They noticed some needlessly provocative statements, which raised questions about the designers. And their response to the criticism was not well handled. And rather than be more careful and respectful in subsequent books, the writers were more careless and provocative, producing content that attracted negative media attention worldwide and legal action.The publisher responded to the concerns and criticisms by effectively firing those involved and giving the projects to other individuals. So… it wasn't even really the audience or &quot;PC activists&quot;. The writers of the game were insensitive and that resulted in their company being restructured and them losing their job. Not really.In the '80s it was people who didn't play the game and didn't know what it was about making false and spurious accusations about the game. Now it's people who actually play the game questioning the sensitivity of the writers suggesting people who commit suicide are weak and claiming real world political figures are thin blood vampires under the thumb of powerful Russian vampires. Maybe. Not being able to get the books might derail plans to play the game. Thankfully, they can still get a Print on Demand copy of VtM 2nd Edition Revised or Vampire 20.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7767822, member: 37579"] Firstly, vampire was first released in 1991. Almost twenty-years after TTRPGs started. So far from being among the "oldest". Second, it's not killed. It's under new management. Third, it wasn't PC activists. It was the audience and reviewers. They noticed some needlessly provocative statements, which raised questions about the designers. And their response to the criticism was not well handled. And rather than be more careful and respectful in subsequent books, the writers were more careless and provocative, producing content that attracted negative media attention worldwide and legal action. The publisher responded to the concerns and criticisms by effectively firing those involved and giving the projects to other individuals. So… it wasn't even really the audience or "PC activists". The writers of the game were insensitive and that resulted in their company being restructured and them losing their job. Not really. In the '80s it was people who didn't play the game and didn't know what it was about making false and spurious accusations about the game. Now it's people who actually play the game questioning the sensitivity of the writers suggesting people who commit suicide are weak and claiming real world political figures are thin blood vampires under the thumb of powerful Russian vampires. Maybe. Not being able to get the books might derail plans to play the game. Thankfully, they can still get a Print on Demand copy of VtM 2nd Edition Revised or Vampire 20. [/QUOTE]

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